Dear Riot thank you for Feral Flare . On other hand Im sad about tank CC junglers.

XuWarrior·4/13/2014, 8:57:55 PM·3 votes·825 views

Why I love new Feral Flare( sorry for my not perfect language , im only gold/plat player): *It Opens new diversity for jungle (heavy heavy farmers : Yi , Xin yeah in my eyes xin made comeback , shyvana jungle again , WW) *Not sure if that item is Over Tuned or Over Powered but for sure it's risky item when ppl find weakness ? Example. If your farmin jungle not gankin enemy team should instant gank or push turrets

Why I Love SoTeL :

*It Brings also Diversity for semi farmer junglers "more fighters" like Eve , Wu , Pantheon .

Now , Why im sad . I would like to see come back for : ChoGath , Skarner , Rammus , Amummu, Nautilius,Mundo from jungle .

/ discuss

12 Comments

Polaritie4/14/2014, 1:16:49 AM2 votes

Uh, Amumu works just fine jungle still. Good clears, good ganks, good utility lategame.

WereScrib4/14/2014, 6:27:08 AM2 votes

FF is stupid. Its OP because it is not only too easy to stack, it, along with BORK gives insane mixed damage sustain and Wriggles is stat efficient early while giving good ganking stats for a very low price. All the junglers who can best use it are the ones who don't spend much time ganking or have massive enough move steroids they can rapidly gank before slipping back into the forest to continue farming.

Its similar to what Meteos stated, he isn't a 'farm jungle', he doesn't play to carry. He just ganks very, very efficiently. The problem with most people who play 'gank' jungles is they second guess. They posture, they think about ganking. Ganking well is about predicting what lane will need you when, and being in the area while farming to gank/countergank.

The fact is? I had a feral flare by 18 minutes as Evelyn while ganking whenever I had an opportunity to do so. I wasn't farming all that fast, but I would always take camps whenever I could. If I knew an enemy jungler was away, I'd take his camps. I'd take my camps while waiting for that moment to gank. I was 4/0/2 by eighteen minutes. Want to know the only reason why I wouldn't go Feral Flare on Eve? Elder Lizard's generally superior due to her kit and Feral Flare gives her some health and mana sustain issues Elder Lizard doesn't give her. It did give me some crazy dueling power but it just didn't match Eve's kit.

Eve isn't a farm jungler. I also wasn't 'useless' before 20 minutes. I had constant impact and applied pressure often.

elliodo4/13/2014, 9:20:44 PM1 votes

Yeah I used to love playing ramus jungle You can still play him Jung though ap ramus is basical and assasin

ShadowNinetails4/14/2014, 4:47:22 PM1 votes

Here's the thing, tank CC junglers never really disappeared. Yes some changes in meta (particularly with top lane going for the "immovable object" champs) made junglers focused more on damage see a rise in popularity, but Amumu, Naut, Cho, and the like never lost viability. Riot themselves have been trumpeting on the forums that they're trying to figure out why Naut has found himself as a niche pick when nothing really changed about him from his priority pick/ban days and even though item 3207 has seen some changes that most consider nerfs, almost all of them are buffs to tanky junglers with good AoE clears like Naut and Amumu.

Contrast that with single target champs like Jax Fiora MasterYi Nocturne Olaf Udyr Warwick . Sure they could all go with item 3209 , but it's never felt as good as it is since the Blue Ezreal days. Plus since then it has eaten nerf after nerf after nerf and even though some of these were changes made across the Spirit item family, they were targeted as buffs for AoE clear champs which only applies for Udyr if you're going Phoenix Stance but that does primarily magic damage and so wouldn't get much use from item 3209 anyway.

The changes to item 3154 and introduction of item 3160 certainly do give this class of jungler a huge boost, but that doesn't mean the item 3207 class are all dead. Sure it may take awhile to see them regularly because everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon of "it's shiny! it's new!" while it's still shiny and new, but if you want to go Maokai it's still quite viable.

ILoveTiramisu4/16/2014, 6:52:10 AM1 votes

NP, you can build feral flare in jungler. Skarner like it.

Smile SodaCake4/14/2014, 5:05:47 AM1 votes

I agree with you. They should do the same attemption on mage cham.

And FF isnt that op. In other words, FF is op since it makes all other jangler like tanky and assa champions are relative weaker now, as a result of Riot keeped nerf those chams or relevant items before.

"Mole Attack" never brings balance. Its a joke. Riot nerf ad nid last year since ad nid is op, and now they consider nerf ap nid and buff ad nid since ap nid is op. They really should consider sth else to achieve balance.

I Main Swain4/14/2014, 1:14:13 AM1 votes

they should make item 3207 slow slightly with abilities and autos (just slightly, like <20%)