So I've played a fair amount of new Kayle now

oOBestEveNAOo·3/14/2019, 8:09:49 AM·5 votes·5,506 views

At a couple different skill ranges, and I've got some updates on how she actually fares.

Bottom line, she's definitely worse off early game than prior to the rework and has basically no good solo lane matchups. She's probably best off in a funnel, the one game I ran of that went very well indeed. But she does have some lanes she can kind of manage before turning it around. I asked some challenger players a couple questions, Azael had some insight on more than one podcast, and I'm beginning to get a picture of how she can be played effectively.

As a solo laner what I've had the most success with is running klepto and basically using it off cooldown for "poke" (more like tickle) to spam up the gold advantage and hit item breakpoints a bit earlier. Usually I run free boots or free stopwatch, minion dematerializer to control the wave, and I'm fond of time warp tonic for the staying power and on demand move speed buff. Usually sorc secondary with mana flow band, and then transcendence, gathering storm, or celerity are all fine in different matchups.

Personally I like putting 3 points in q for q farming early before maxing e, but most high level players are really liking to max q first. Some max w second, and I usually get it to level 3 before finishing my q, but for me her ability max order is pretty flexible depending on in game situations and I don't feel tied to any set order game in and game out.

As far as builds go I've tried her in just about every possible configuration (man I do love me some hybrid champs), but I've had, by far, the most success when I rush a triforce on her. With klepto you can easily get this in around the 12 minute mark and her trades are really quite good with a sheen proc early. Typically I follow that with a blade of the ruined king and at this point I'm usually feeling pretty capable in skirmishes and team fights. I'm starting to consider these 2 items core on new kayle. After that I've really been liking hourglass to free up my ult for spam on an initial engager. I feel like GA, hurricane, I.E., merc scimitar, ludens, rab cap, nashors, rage blade, and even frozen mallet or rylais are acceptable items as well and the build path can really be tailored to the specific game. Boots can also be mixed and matched for build based on situation.

She's quite fun to play once you figure out how to play around how awful her early game is and I rather enjoy having a champion that I can build in a number of ways to be effective depending on game. She's certainly more viable than I first thought, but her win conditions are indeed pretty narrow and it'll take practice to figure out when you can and can't play her effectively.

19 Comments

oOBestEveNAOo3/14/2019, 10:00:32 AM1 votes

Omg...

I just thought of something I will now have to try...

Double tear build kayle.

GhaelWinds3/14/2019, 11:19:06 AM1 votes

Have you tried hail of blades yet? It's been working super well for me.

Abibyama II3/14/2019, 12:13:25 PM1 votes

I will admit, the kayle rework was meh for me

But I will say it's impressive how versatile her build choices and keystone choices has become, from what I've seen a lot of people find success in building AD, AP and On hit. And her keystones voices aren't limited to one keystone like many champions, she can go fleet, klepto, lethal tempo, conqueror and grasp

Serika Zero3/14/2019, 3:01:40 PM1 votes

Why a lot of high elo players max q first: Your e does no damage if your target is full or close to full hp. Your early game sucks.

So, you max q to compensate for that early game. it's a decent speel for farming. it can be used to disengage or set up hanks. Tom Hanks (ganks). sure, it's hard to hit, but you got no wave clear outside it.

The reason Morgana for example, maxes w in lane over q is because her w is the clear. the reason most Victor's max e, is because they need wave clear. With q max (point and click dmg and shield) only as a tank Viktor build which was abused and then nerfed. But kayle e does pretty much no dmg. While viktors q did damage, shielded him, gave him more dmg, and a speed buff.

The idea of maxing e first was stupid from the start. Then again most people at the start were building nashors and rageblade. While rageblade is good (post 16),and nashors isn't because mana issues. it only took 10 minutes thinking about it to figure that much out.

Cronofuge3/14/2019, 3:30:03 PM1 votes

Hmm I was getting the idea that AD was going to be great on her but I hadn't considered strong standalone items like triforce and bork. I'll have to try that one out.

BlueSmurf20183/15/2019, 4:19:35 PM1 votes

she can duel riven 1v1, at level 1 with pta and E upgrade...

Linna Excel3/16/2019, 12:48:33 AM1 votes

Does this include jungle? Why not hide in the jungle and power farm?