Frostblade Irelia feels like Dragonslayer Pantheon all over again

RedPannda·3/20/2018, 11:22:45 PM·44 votes·3,873 views

After taking some time to really look at the new splash art and in game model I have decided to write down my much too long and detailed thoughts on the skin. My apologies for the length of this post but I feel like there are a lot of details to go over and a TLDR really wouldn't convey the message of this post.

I really didn't want to have to say this, Frostblade Irelia was one of the first skins I ever bought and it has always been one of my favorites. I fell out of love with how the champ played a long time ago but I had been more hopeful for this rework than I have for anything in league for a long time. And first I have to say that you knocked it out of the park with the rework in my eyes. Her new animations and abilities look smooth af and are incredibly aesthetic.

Her basic skin looks better than a lot of the purchasable custom skins in my eyes. And for the most part her extra skins carry that same level of quality, the Aviator one is one I never had any interest in before but it will be the first thing I purchase just for that splash art alone. All of the other skins feel as good or better except one...

When I got up this morning I couldn't have been more hyped to see that the skins were out and I couldn't have been more disappointed when I clicked the image. Than I watched her ingame preview and my heart dropped to the floor. I can say now that without significant changes such as the Pantheon Dragonslayer skin got I will not be using this skin and that really breaks my heart.

It feels like the least amount of work went into it compared to any of the other skins when it is an undebatable fact that it is the most popular of her skins. Her base skin in my eyes blows it away and I am honestly very surprised that it made it out like this without someone at Riot questioning it.

First I want to examine the original splash art and what made it so good.

https://i.imgur.com/h2rn03s.jpg[/img]

I have marked all the important details in red.

  1. Her Face: I am not a lore hound but Irelia has always come off as a stern, not highly emotional, serious woman who has a job to do and is focused on it and if you get in her way she will slice you to ribbons. Her eyes are focused directly at you, her brow is furrowed and her mouth has a slight upturn like she is seeing something she doesn't like and she is ready to take care of it.

  2. Her Tech: Again I don't know the lore but she appears to be wearing some sort of hextech modifications on her head and shoulders. They give off a nice blue glow with a slightly different hue than her suit and hair that contrasts nicely. It gives her a bit of mystery, are her weapons completely controlled by the hextech equipment or is she powering them as well? It also gives her another color besides blue to create a nice solid two color scheme that doesn't clash.

  3. The Butt: You knew this was coming, like it or not, intentional or not it became the defining identity of the skin. From her being referred to as Frostbutt, to her skin in splash and ingame making it a defining feature. Not her only feature but enough that it deserves at least some mention.

The angle of the splash art from an almost top down perspective gives you a very good view of the definition of her body. There is just a slight but clearly defined for the lack of a better word "shelf". Her left leg is in a just slightly bent forward angle with her knee facing down and back accentuating it and I also think the thigh armor helps add some definition to her body and give you some differing visual angles. It is a perfect work of art and giving a different context a marble sculpture of her would fit right in a museum.

Now I want to contrast these elements with the new splash art and a small mention of the ingame visuals as well. I do think the ingame visuals are better than the splash art with one two glaring issues.

https://i.imgur.com/3K11zGy.jpg[/img]

  1. Her Face: This mostly applies to the splash art but if you placed these two faces side by side and asked me if they were the same person I would have a very hard time answering that question. Gone is the stern look, without zooming in you cannot even tell that she is looking at the camera. It looks like she is just vaguely staring off into the distance.

There is no concern or any emotion at all, it is a basic almost slack jawed expression of complete disinterest. Her nose stole all the protrusion from the jaw and it honestly feels like they completely threw out the idea of what she was and just created a new character that just so happens to have the same name and same general features.

  1. Her Body: This is the worst part of all the details. There are so many things wrong with this one splash and in game. First there are too many clashing colors, There are multiple shades of purple and pink everywhere, there is silver and giant splashes of white. While the blue highlights of her old skin have almost completely disappeared.

The only thing you could even maybe consider blue is the legs and arms of her jumpsuit and stomach area. Her blades appear almost completely purple as well. To be fair her in game model the blades appear much more frost like. Even her eyes almost appear to have a reddish purple tinge to them. Gone are the golden eyes of her other skin.

I feel that there are way too many contrasting colors. Her old skin used only two major colors to simplify and highly her important features. This new color scheme almost feels like a riot on the eyes and if you didn't tell me theme of this skin I would guess she was called Crystal Lotus or something along those lines.

I know Ice and Crystal share a lot of common features but they are not the same thing and this skin swings way too much to the side of appearing to utilize the theme of solid rocks instead of freezing ice. There is nothing cold or intimidating about her.

Secondly and the most damning issue in my eyes is all the fur. It is completely out of place and feels like it was added in because they remembered at the last minute that this was supposed to be a icy cold skin and they needed something to let us know that since the rest of her skin has basically done away with the frosty blue theme.

Why does she have a ring of fur around her waist? This serves no practical application and is simply distracting. Than we come to the ultimate crime, That renaissance style neck brace that I guess is supposed to be part of a non existent winter coat.

This image was the first thing I thought of when I saw it. https://i.imgur.com/KthznkI.jpg[/img] In the splash art it is only slightly off putting but in the game it is comically large. I mean just look at this thing https://i.imgur.com/W5jpe8t.jpg[/img].

Her old skin had no need for such embellishments and this feels like they were trying to make up for the lack in character with the rest of her skin to give her a "winter" appearance. Also it looks much too much like they borrowed heavily from the Woad Quinn skin.

  1. The Butt: Finally we come the end of my much too long rant. This is actually the smallest area of complaint. There is nothing "bad" about this feature. But there is also very little that makes it stand out.

Gone are the little armor pieces that gave it definition, instead we have an almost perfectly smooth jumpsuit from the waste down. This time her left leg is angled almost completely forward which pulls everything inwards and smooths the curves out. That combined with the bottom up angle of the splash art removes any hint of the previously mentioned "shelf". It is just a firm buttox encased in skintight clothing. It has very little definition and simply doesn't have any wow factor in my eyes.

Riot I know this far into the design process there is almost no chance of any changes. I am not trying to start a protest or try to get the skin radically changed. I know it is much too late for that. The most I could hope for is that maybe I can start a conversation about the ideas behind radical artistic changes to beloved characters and possibly in the future you could consider bringing rough draft artistic designs to the community to get their opinion before you make a final decision.

You don't have to go along with the crowd all the time, but many of us care deeply about the characters you have created and it feels like a small betrayal when the spirit of what they were morphs into something we no longer recognize.

29 Comments

2nd Chance3/20/2018, 11:30:37 PM10 votes

They nerfed the booty and that makes me 😡

BlueHeart3/20/2018, 11:37:01 PM8 votes

I agree here, they kinda ruined the in game model comparatively

Sohleks3/21/2018, 2:57:37 AM4 votes

I'm not part of the Irelia demographic but I kinda agree that the frost skin might have gone in an odd direction. I agree that her apathetic look is a downgrade and that her form isn't as stylish. She lost her aggressive power/magical tech theme and instead now looks more dainty with the emphasized crystals and coat.

All the other skins are excellent though. Especially the purple neon night skin is eye poppin'. And aviator is adorable.

It doesn't affect me but it that is my objective thought on the matter. I kinda feel sorry about it buuuut...

Oleandervine3/21/2018, 1:21:00 AM3 votes

In your in game image, that's called a fur mantle. It's basically a large, lavish fur collar, ranging from shoulder to shoulder. It is very trendy in high fashion for winter wear. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0161/7466/products/bustown_modern_vintage_camel_wool_tweed_giant_lynx_fur_mantle_collar_cuffs_coat_4.jpg

Luralin3/20/2018, 11:29:03 PM2 votes

first

BlueVestGuy3/21/2018, 12:49:41 AM2 votes

whats the problem with dragonslayer panth it looks fine

Akali is SO HOT3/21/2018, 1:01:50 AM2 votes

Hadn't seen her in game model until now. That looks super bad lol

stealthfox943/21/2018, 5:47:29 AM2 votes

O.K wow. That in game model is complete garbage and needs to be fixed asap. I don't have a problem with the splash art other than the color pallet. I'm fine with the butt being less prominent but still noticeable.

Javazon3/22/2018, 5:05:13 PM2 votes

I hope I can get a refund on frostblade irelia. I've purchased the skin many years ago but this is just too much.

revliledpembroke3/21/2018, 5:17:40 AM1 votes

So, why the two posts?

Plesi3/23/2018, 1:57:56 PM1 votes

I've never played Irelia or took any notice of her in particular, but I actually love the new splash art and the skin.

I think it's a great concept and the skin has some nice coloring to it.

I don't really think the butt matters since most of the characters in League of Legends look like models. Besides, she is (of course) very attractive in both her splash and her in-game model.

I love the fur mantle!

Edit: I noticed you mentioned "Why does she have a ring of fur around her waist? This serves no practical application and is simply distracting."

Why are most characters in League wearing super revealing armor? It doesn't seem to serve any practical purpose but showing off the model-esque bodies. I think the fur adds character to the "Frost" part of the skin. It reminds me of the Karma skin with the fur and I think it is beautiful!

Then again, we all have different opinions and I admire the amount of effort you put into this post! (:

The skin spotlight video shows her off a lot better than the picture too. It is actually really gorgeous in-game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccyjTEIUVPk

Almo3/21/2018, 5:54:17 AM1 votes

um, how long did it take you to make this thread :D nice one though!

Doctor Dyment3/21/2018, 6:06:08 AM1 votes

Colorblind here, so the contrasting colors don't affect me. Score one for me.

Jerry SeinfeId3/21/2018, 12:19:46 PM1 votes

Frostblade irela never did anything for me, sure her ass happens to be pictured nicely in the splash but that doesn't make a skin for me. Aviator always looked so much more interesting. Her face actually looks decent now and they got rid of the god awfull hair she had. thanks to the fur she achieves more of a winter feel than the old one tbh, the old one was just some girl in a tightsuit with some tech who happened to have a frozen blade and hair. The collar is big, and from the angle you shared it's indeed pretty bad, but from the skinspotlight i saw it's ok. It could be scaled down a bit but it's not that bad.

With her rework i think frostblade is atleast pleasing to look at, Aviator is godlike (infiltrator/nightblade are pretty good too)

CPU Lyrica3/21/2018, 7:42:44 PM1 votes

Can someone please tell me what happened to dragonslayer pantheon? only been playing since season... i dunno. ivern was new when i started.

Zezockary3/21/2018, 7:53:25 PM1 votes

I liked the old skin more, but the new one isn't horrible. My biggest issue is everything below the waist fur. Everything else has something going on like armor or what have you, but the butt and thigh are just completely bare and it is kind of off putting. If I was going to suggest a fix I would make the fur on the waist a long skirt that goes down further in the back than the front or remove the fur and add some armor in the area.

That being said, I feel like these skins could coexist.

EDIT: Just went to check out how it looks in game for the first time, and I honestly really like it from a top down angle. If they fixed the splash in that area it would be really good.

130x3/22/2018, 1:10:33 AM1 votes

Wow that new skin is ugly as fuck. She has man hips, a man face, and is dressed like a drag queen. I can't help but get the feeling "Rocky Horrer Picture Show" off it. I find it disgustingly disturbing.

Luralin3/22/2018, 2:10:15 AM1 votes

Bump for visibility :)

Mcsquzzy3/21/2018, 2:16:51 AM1 votes
Kythers3/21/2018, 1:17:34 AM1 votes

gonna refund this shit