I feel so bad for anyone that doesn't play a popular champion.

RedPannda·5/30/2018, 12:57:06 AM·58 votes·16,408 views

Imagine being an Urgot main and not having a single skin in the entire time you have been playing the game.

https://i.imgur.com/QEVJcaN.jpg[/img] Is there a more cucked champion than Kalista right now? I looked at the Kalista mains reddit page and it's just depressing, there is zero hope there. There is a massive adc shakeup coming tomorrow and I couldn't even find a single post discussing it on there because they know it won't do anything for them. That is just sad. She doesn't even break even against a single other matchup, most of them being 44% or lower. Her win rate over the game length looks like the Marianas trench.

https://i.imgur.com/16nLBJp.jpg[/img]

100 Comments

IcyPepper5/30/2018, 1:00:42 AM52 votes

She needs a rework, tbh. I don't think there's a perfect bandaid fix for her.

five oh tree 5/30/2018, 2:10:52 AM51 votes

no one wants kalista outside the trash can ever again. no sympathy.

KVbqbFsC8e5/30/2018, 12:58:35 AM33 votes

I just cannot have any sympathy for Kalista players.

WalkingInACircle5/30/2018, 2:13:52 AM28 votes

Kalista is a really broken design. Riot doesn't know how to tell CertainlyT No.

Morgy Morgy5/30/2018, 1:44:55 AM26 votes

just rework the piece of shit. so many new champs just cross the line for what's acceptably unique and just anti-fun (kalista, zoe, azir, zoe, zoe, fucking zoe)

Akali is SO HOT5/30/2018, 3:21:24 AM11 votes

Kalista is basically the Azir/Ryze version of ADCs. When she's good in normal play, then she's broken in high elo and pro play so they have to nerf her until she's bad over and over again. Azir and Ryze can be tinkered around with more because their abilities are easy to change. You can't really change Kalista's passive or rend to be something similar, but not busted at the same time.

Unfortunately, she's one of those champions that you can't rework without Sioning her and can't balance without making her either broken or garbage. She's gonna be in a bad state for a long time because her kit is incredibly hard to work with.

Infernape5/30/2018, 1:03:03 AM9 votes

That's the problem when her kit is so goddamn obnoxious in casual play and in pro play.

She needs a legit gameplay update.

Tormentula5/30/2018, 1:00:57 AM9 votes

Elise Gragas seem borderline unplayable too.

I feel bad for kalista mains sometimes, she's one of those champs that makes players went to eat glass when playing against, but she actually takes a lot of skill to pull off.

JRobin315/30/2018, 5:38:10 AM7 votes

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Imagine being an Urgot main and not having a single skin in the entire time you have been playing the game.

https://i.imgur.com/QEVJcaN.jpg[/img] Is there a more cucked champion than Kalista right now? I looked at the Kalista mains reddit page and it's just depressing, there is zero hope there. There is a massive adc shakeup coming tomorrow and I couldn't even find a single post discussing it on there because they know it won't do anything for them. That is just sad. She doesn't even break even against a single other matchup, most of them being 44% or lower. Her win rate over the game length looks like the Marianas trench.

https://i.imgur.com/16nLBJp.jpg[/img]

I felt sympathy up until the moment Kalista was mentioned. I then immediately, irrevocably lost all sympathy.

SpecterVonBaren5/30/2018, 4:23:06 AM4 votes

Really? I feel bad for people that DO play a popular champ, have the risk of it being picked from you or banned, get told you're a meta following sheep and get ridiculed when they're popular.

As to Kalista, she deserves all of it.

Tahminatrix 5/30/2018, 1:52:18 AM3 votes

Buff her and make her more susceptible to slows so she isn't as toxic..her movement based soley on attack speed while in combat is pretty disgusting considering we don't have enough attack speed slow items in this game.

So just make slows reduce the range of her dashes but by a short amount like 1% shorter dash for every 2% slow strength, applied after the flat bonus length from having boots

Pika Fox5/30/2018, 1:02:12 AM3 votes

And if the kalista player is good or played in a group, she will hard carry the game. Its like suggesting ryze is bad because of his winrate.

LVL99 Helper TK5/30/2018, 5:15:36 AM3 votes

well some champs are just terrible design and have to be off-meta for the health of the game.

muted team chat5/30/2018, 4:13:05 AM2 votes

iPav won't play Teemo above plat or diamond anymore because it is "completely impossible"

Athenes Lulu5/30/2018, 10:00:07 AM2 votes

Imagine Kalista was a mage or tank and they would get all kinds of praise, no matter how obnoxious their kit is.

I do think that Kalista deserves a rework at this point, but the bias here otherwise is disgusting.

Glory975/30/2018, 11:35:45 AM2 votes

I was an azir otp until he got gutted into oblivion 2 years ago. Even though it felt terrible when i couldnt get a 50% winrate with a champion that i had played hundreds of games. I had to admit it was the right thing to nerf him down into the abyss. Because for the healthiness of the game, a hyper-carry with that potent self-peel abilities shouldn't exist. It's just unfair to play against it (if the azir knows what he is doing there is nothing you can do). Kalista went into an unplayable state for the same reason.

But I'm pretty dissapointed that riot did not learn from their mistakes. Like allowing tristana to be that broken in the ardent censer meta, once again creating an untouchable hypercarry, or how kaisa can shield herself for 1.5k with her ultimate in lategame fights right now.

Hexs Fortune5/30/2018, 11:41:16 AM2 votes

MF just got an ultimate skin, but she's never seen in pro play.

These boards rarely complain about her the way they do champs like Zed, Yasuo, Zoe.

Would you consider MF a popular champ?

What do the popular champs have that make them popular?

BlackEyesBlue5/30/2018, 2:27:10 PM2 votes

My mains since starting this game 4 years ago have been: Evelynn , Diana and Poppy

NONE of them have even been as dominant as Kalista at her peak!; and All of them got dumpstered for no discernible reason.... So YAAAAAAA I'm really bleeding for her over here. [slayer-jinx-unamused]