To everyone complaining about Kayle

RedPannda·3/7/2019, 6:03:52 PM·98 votes·20,532 views

How do you expect riot to know that back loading all of a champions power into the ultra late game when games are designed to end before then wouldn't work? Do you think they are psychic? No one could have predicted this, it was a complete shock to us all.

Reworks aren't just a one and done process, it takes multiple reworks over the course of a few years to actually rework a champion. This is just the first step in the process, you can't just expect a reworked champion to be viable. You need to understand that riot is in it for the long haul, you are expected to be a part of the testing process and your sacrifices are for the good of your descendants so that one day they can play the champion that you dreamed of having.

Playing Kayle is a team effort, you need to communicate with your team and your opponents, they need to understand that she has special needs and they need to support your efforts to grow. Really if riot wants to be inclusive to disabled reworked champions they should create a 4th lane, a special lane where developmentally challenged champions can farm in peace without being harassed.

Kayle is going through a hard time, she lost her identity, her face, her hair and most of her armor. We need to be supportive of her while she is going through this transition. I know we can do that for her and I believe that one day all Kayle enthusiasts will be able to proudly raise their heads high and not be afraid to say that they are a Kayle main.

65 Comments

Jarring3/7/2019, 6:19:50 PM27 votes

tbh i just think they need more rioters that played mobas before LoL.

LoL being "the moba" doesn't sit well with me.

LoL was designed all because guinsoo was the current owner of a moba that happened to gain 10 million players. dota allstars

He didn't even design the game. yes, he was A designer. A single designer. His partner, Icefrog, went on to create both Heroes of Newerth AND DotA 2...

I have a sneaking suspicion that Guinsoo is the only game designer that has any knowledge of mobas outside of LoL. I don't know it for a fact, but it seems evident in the games themselves, that the game designers for DotA 2 and HoN have a lot of game knowledge of mobas previous to their own... Whereas all the game designers(other than Guinsoo) for LoL only have game knowledge of LoL.

Like.. they don't know what their game is even based on. I'm not saying this game should be more like DotA... I would just think it's necessary to have knowledge of your roots.

Kagemyth3/7/2019, 6:09:55 PM17 votes

i love the way you wrote this :D*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

GreenKnight3/7/2019, 6:09:04 PM7 votes

What if i hate her for being a rework?

Düff McWhalen3/7/2019, 11:50:59 PM7 votes

{quoted}

How do you expect riot to know that back loading all of a champions power into the ultra late game when games are designed to end before then wouldn't work? Do you think they are psychic? No one could have predicted this, it was a complete shock to us all.

Reworks aren't just a one and done process, it takes multiple reworks over the course of a few years to actually rework a champion. This is just the first step in the process, you can't just expect a reworked champion to be viable. You need to understand that riot is in it for the long haul, you are expected to be a part of the testing process and your sacrifices are for the good of your descendants so that one day they can play the champion that you dreamed of having.

Playing Kayle is a team effort, you need to communicate with your team and your opponents, they need to understand that she has special needs and they need to support your efforts to grow. Really if riot wants to be inclusive to disabled reworked champions they should create a 4th lane, a special lane where developmentally challenged champions can farm in peace without being harassed.

Kayle is going through a hard time, she lost her identity, her face, her hair and most of her armor. We need to be supportive of her while she is going through this transition. I know we can do that for her and I believe that one day all Kayle enthusiasts will be able to proudly raise their heads high and not be afraid to say that they are a Kayle main.

shitposting level: EXPERT

Makarakarn3/7/2019, 11:42:37 PM6 votes

I get what you're saying here, but if you're going to write an entire post in a sarcastic/comedic fashion, it belongs in memes and games, not gameplay xD

SweedishGunner3/7/2019, 7:49:11 PM5 votes

I feel like she could actually work with some sort of protect the Kayle comp, but trying to get that to happen in soloQ is easier said than done.

Tormentula3/7/2019, 11:17:36 PM5 votes

Riot: We're going to rework and improve kayle so that her current flaws don't make her unplayable again! We do this by keeping the scaling theme and making her overall better at achieving that!

Everyone: https://i.giphy.com/media/PYFImn3jYw3dK/giphy.gif?noredirect

Riot: So now she has absolutely no presence as a champion early game, so that she can go goku mode like she was before, except now she also can't auto attack while she ults so that she doesn't pop off too hard when focused!

Everyone:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/c6/f6/10c6f60d28d998ba62d25e9f4f5157d2.gif

Totallynotabot3/7/2019, 9:17:04 PM4 votes

Isn't that what the pbe is for? Everyone can be r%%%%%ed

ApathyAndGrief3/8/2019, 3:56:03 PM3 votes

I'm more angry at the people first timing Kayle Jungle in ranked because they watched Nightblu3 do it.

Ruse33/8/2019, 3:57:54 AM3 votes

Forcing a champ to be really weak in the early stage of the game is really bad. If riot is constantly making games shorter with changes and buffs then why make a champ be super strong late game if there shouldn't be a late game. Her really bad early game costs so many matches due to her being an easy target where she cant even do what she is meant to do. You made it where she cant auto during her ult , that ruins the point of late game kayle where she can throw tons of damage without being damaged.

Gold Grenade3/9/2019, 6:58:57 PM2 votes

I'm dead. This killed me. I'm literally crying with laughter.

Really if riot wants to be inclusive to disabled reworked champions they should create a 4th lane, a special lane where developmentally challenged champions can farm in peace without being harassed.

Iron Phantom3/7/2019, 10:01:59 PM2 votes

The current Kayle is just depressing, the fact that she doesn't actually become a champion till level 11 seriously needs to be looked at.

The King Diamond3/8/2019, 5:45:27 PM2 votes
  1. Make her range at 10 or 9 lvl.
  2. Let her attack when she ult herself.
  3. Decrease W ms, increase healing.
  4. Make her Q hitbox a better.
  5. Required stacks to get a buff decreased to 4. That would help her a lot
AntiSJW3/9/2019, 10:41:24 PM1 votes

I petition Kayle be the first champ in the "handicap" lane.

The Trent3/7/2019, 11:33:41 PM1 votes

I mean she's a decent support early to mid game and she is honestly a prime candidate for the current funneling strategy going on top (although lulu is still the best for that). She's really not that bad by any means. She's not good at playing the game how it's supposed to be played right now... but when it comes to abusing some strategies, she's a great pick. She's like a lulu for your master yi but she'll be able to out scale him by doing nothing. So honestly I don't think she's bad at all.

Serika Zero3/8/2019, 7:45:04 AM1 votes

How about you stop playing her like an late game carry that builds nothing for early power? Maybe then you could compete in the mid game.

just an idea. Vayne is also a "late game champion" and she's doing fine in this meta. As does jinx and others.

Mannny3/8/2019, 2:51:28 PM1 votes

I don’t think it was that unpredictable. She gains her power spike at level 16 and with 2-3 items she becomes a monster. This same trend is in other champs like Kassadin who is considerably strong right now and has been for many patches.

The Highest Noon3/8/2019, 3:10:43 PM1 votes

I'm fine with Kayle. I'm not fine with the players I'm matched with though.

Jofeyy3/8/2019, 4:20:06 PM1 votes

{quoted}

you are expected to be a part of the testing process and your sacrifices are for the good of your descendants so that one day they can play the champion that you dreamed of having.

LOL

Besteal3/8/2019, 7:13:15 PM1 votes

tbh, Kayle is just fine in low elo, because games never end there and she gets plenty of time to hit 16.

Raiyza3/8/2019, 8:43:55 PM1 votes

Kayle is really bad. She's useless until 16.

ODiiiiiN3/8/2019, 10:12:35 PM1 votes

Kayle is OP af wtf u guys even talking about. The only problem with her is that she's basically a support champion till level 11. After that its GG carry us guardian angel!

They need to buff her before 11.

and

They need to nerf Yasuo so he only gets 50% crit increase not 100%. problem solved with that fuker.

Doombot3/8/2019, 10:49:33 PM1 votes

I'd like to complain but first I'd need a chance to pick Kayle. 90% ban in normals 5% picked by somebody before me and the 5% when I get Kayle i just get trolled because somebody else also wanted to pick Kayle so they think its ok to just ruin the game.

Fogo Nos Ossos3/9/2019, 1:36:05 AM1 votes

I could deal with it all if they didn't take away my awesome "swish" "swash" sound of Aether Wing Kayle with 2.5 attack speed....so PISSED! GIVE ME BACK MY OLD AETHER WING KAYLE!!!

BrieLarsonMyWife3/9/2019, 2:36:39 PM1 votes

Can all of you please SHUT UP about Kayle? god, 1 f*cking entirely month, this is a game, not "People against Gamergate 2.0" Kayle is fine, she looks good, sexy and perfect, that's FINE, understand that my god, this is ridiculous

Horse Grenades3/9/2019, 8:19:29 PM1 votes

10/10