their jungler camps every single lane, my jungle gets 1 drag and proceeds to farm the rest of the game. when asked why hes losing, he said its our fault. this is to all u jungle mains who pick that role to think ur gods who have no responsibility. as for the other junglers who play like normal players, thank you for being fucking mature.
CloaknDagger2226 votesAs a jungler main, here's a few things to consider.
Junglers fall on a scale of Ganker to Farmer. Shaco is the extreme ganker. Rammus is up there too. The other end looks like Shyvana or Mundo. Udyr falls somewhere in the middle. Not every jungler is designed to gank for you and camp lanes.
Are you facilitating the ganks? Ganking does not mean jungler shows up and wins you the lane. Ganking means you as the laner need to participate, which means you need to be healthy enough to participate.
Here's a dirty secret among junglers, and advice that plat/diamond/challenger level guides constantly give out - ignore lanes that are losing hard.
Why?
You can't help when I gank. You've already fed a bit, so the enemy can kill me 1 v 1, and if you attempt to contribute, you're just going to feed him further. Your lane is lost, and our responsibility is to tip the scales of a lane that actually has a chance.
Blasphemy, I know. In your mind we're here to babysit you. However, that is impossible when you've lost the lane so hard.
There's so...so much more that a jungler has to consider/weigh/think about that you're even giving credit for.
Goodest Gamer1 voteswhen u have a volibear sitting top and the jungle is farming the jungle the entire game and the riven has been begging for a gank, and u refuse to help her ... thats not his prob right? but them winning the game is the laners fault. the jungler job is help his team win, isnt it? its not farm get drag and gg easy. nope its if u see a lane in trouble help them out if u can. this guy didnt gank a single lane 40 min in.
CloaknDagger2223 votesDo the math: If the enemy jungler is camping your lane, he is not getting any XP, or any gold. He's literally not improving.
The only thing that changes that is if you give him a kill.
Ward. Hug the tower. Yes, you're going to lose gold/xp, but you're doing so at the same rate the enemy jungler is. It's break-even, and even though "omg I'm not leveling wtfffff" is going through your head, the game isn't about YOU and YOUR lane, it's about the team and the bigger picture.
However, as soon as you stop warding, or get sloppy and walk out into the obvious gank, YOU are at fault.
Goodest Gamer1 voteslet me redo the math. so me as a laner becoming useless while the enemy laner gets stronger is not relevant. whats relevant is the jungler getting farm. once i have flash down, they can dive me thousands of times with no punishment.