"hey maybe if i start up a normal game i can have fun!"

Goodest Gamer·Sep 13, 2015·90 votes·4,384 views

top adc support jungle

OUTSKILLED AND OUTPLAYED. THANKS FOR THE FUN META WE ARE IN. EVEN NORMALS ARE COMPETITIVE.

83 Comments

Doggie KrugerSep 13, 201525 votes

Fizz Zed and take your pick of one of these at mid.

ImSoFullSep 13, 201524 votes

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and take your pick of one of these at mid.

Uhh what? Ahri Azir Viktor

Silver FluffenbuSep 13, 20151 votes

azir's win rate is abysmal

TenSlashTenSep 13, 20152 votes

how is azir's winrate so bad>

I lost so many games to azir this year because his kit is obnoxiously overpowered.

Nashoors+rylias is the worst shit to play against.

He doesn't even have cooldowns once he hits 15%+ cdr

XeynidSep 14, 20155 votes

Because he's also obnoxiously hard to play properly.

Vivid MandalaSep 14, 20151 votes

That's merely payment for the fact otherwise you reach him and he gets stomped on if you know what you're doing. He needs the slow.

RasCaelestisSep 13, 201524 votes

I've been a Viktor main since I started playing League in the early stages of Season 3. In the span of about 2 weeks I went from getting crap from my allies at the start of games for picking a 'troll' champion, to getting crap from my enemies after games for picking an 'OP' champion.

I know that he was popular in pro games recently, but he's always been this good. The reason no one knew this is because so few people played him.

TenSlashTenSep 13, 20156 votes

viktors always had stupid damage.

Now he just has more stupid damage. Skill shots in this game don't take skill anymore. They travel too fast and lack proper clarity to count as a skill shot. So if thats what people use to argue I just laugh.

It's like trying to argue triple Q rengar takes skill, funniest thing I've ever heard was someone trying to explain rengar's skill cap.

Gunslinger744Sep 13, 201514 votes

Yeah, that instant AoE stun on Chaos Storm is fucking broken.

TenSlashTenSep 13, 20154 votes

does instant damage just like annie. the best CC is death.

Shield VillainSep 13, 20154 votes

It does half of its damage on cast, and the remainin damage as it tracks you. Not only that, it DOESN'T stun! It never has! It use to silence and they removed that. Now all it has is a channel disrupter. But that thing is slow as fuck, you can walk out of it. It doesn't have as huge a range as Annie Ult anyways.

I Main SwainSep 13, 20152 votes

annies ult only stuns if she saves her stun for it...

Shield VillainSep 13, 20151 votes

That;s Annie's Ult, not Viktor's. Tenslash was saying that Viktor Annie's Ult. It couldn't be further from the truth.

TenSlashTenSep 13, 20152 votes

I was compareing the damage. Who cares about CC if they don't die? Lol

Viktor kills you.

Annie kills you if she blows flash and ignite.

Viktor kills you with all his summoners up...

Lazor+ ult all he has to ever cast. Other skills? Yeah if he walks up.

Aych PiiSep 14, 20151 votes

Annie would be awful if she didn't have the AoE stun on her ult. It wouldn't even be a good ultimate without her passive. Comparing the two just doesn't work.

TenSlashTenSep 14, 20154 votes

Annie is awful. She's just got a broken passive.

Rest of her kit is meh.

Shield VillainSep 13, 20152 votes

It doesn't stun...It can disrupt channels but it doesn't do anything but that. His only stun is on his Gravity Field has an AOE stun, and it's delayed ._.

CatastropSep 14, 20151 votes

It's like trying to argue triple Q rengar takes skill, funniest thing I've ever heard was someone trying to explain rengar's skill cap.

It's still hard for new players to the champion.

Yura May ZingSep 14, 20151 votes

I feel this exact same way about Nautilus Support and Diana Mid

TheSlogsSep 13, 20152 votes

im sorry but Yasuo

MaknetoSep 13, 201515 votes

Lol...like Thresh has ever been, or will ever be, out of meta....

TenSlashTenSep 13, 20158 votes

certainly T champion design.

DeusVultSep 13, 201510 votes

See, i saw that this was gonna happen this patch, so me and my buddies started running teams like this:

Top: Malphite Jungle: Rammus Mid: Swain or Lissandra ADC: Ashe Support: Taric

RasCaelestisSep 13, 20157 votes

I love picking Taric support into the full-AD teams that are popular now. He's a lot of fun, and apart from his mana issues, he's really strong.

Also, I can make the enemy wish I was Thresh with one keybind. </j> on Mouse Button 3, and it's GG.
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SyvenonSep 14, 20154 votes

Real. I just started picking him up in ranked games, I think I'm like 5-1 with him already. Enemy team is like Kalista : ermergerd I'm 3stronk5you you'll never catch me huehuehue Taric : e Kalista : wait wha--- stunned

ayNigerianPrinceSep 14, 20151 votes

It's do to the fact that she has to look at you as she's hopping away.

The gems are just too outrageous for some people.

iamthegoatofwarSep 14, 20152 votes

taric support, rammus jungle, malphite top, fizz mid, and graves adc...where's your god now all ad comps?

CatastropSep 14, 20151 votes

Mid: or

SeductiveGrandpaSep 13, 20159 votes

Ahri "Wow, corki adc not even vayne, gonna feed?" Corki "Nope." Morgana "Damn straight he wont" MORGANA CONTINUES TO LAND SNARES Corki 12/1/15 (Based off of one of my earlier SR games, eat shit vayne)

HeadHonchkrowSep 13, 20154 votes

I can only dream of having such a high amount of kills as corki sincerely, the worst corki main in history

Gunslinger744Sep 13, 20152 votes

I was gonna ask why you main Corki if you're bad at him, but then I remembered I main Draven and I'm terrible with him item 3073

KögâSep 13, 20156 votes

I suggested that maybe riot ought to look at promoting fun in normal and trying hard in ranked.

Was deleted.

Goodest GamerSep 13, 20155 votes

"memes and games" is the appropriate thread for this - riot

FirexSaberSep 13, 20155 votes

But... But... Bear with me here... What if people have fun playing meta champions?

SecretAgentHulkSep 14, 20151 votes

If you wanna have fun playing outside the meta, you're going to have to tank your Normals MMR to a place where off-meta picks can succeed. If you just want to win, the meta exists for a reason.

PıggySep 13, 20153 votes

As morde: Build some random stuff as long as it had ad/ap, deals over 1k damage when full build. Morde is also fun to play against when he has a giant dragon pet that outrange and outdamage you.

Onimus TerlainSep 13, 20153 votes

I love playing normals. Mainly because it is the only way to play with 2 or 3 friends.

It has never bothered me that people always follow the meta.

7ha7guy777Sep 13, 201514 votes

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I love playing normals. Mainly because it is the only way to play with 2 or 3 friends.

item 3070 Amumu

VarindranSep 13, 20153 votes

Don't forget about Yasuo and Fiora , i have seen both of these guys carry more games than i can count recently.

SquarefighterSep 13, 20153 votes

But there's plenty of ways to beat those champs. Once Garen's villain passive is changed so it no longer effects enemies that kill him, punishing you for winning lane, he's still the same old Garen who has always had trouble getting kited. For Vayne, learn Draven. IMO one of the most fun champs in the game that also teaches you how to make a lot of clicks making it easier to dodge things later on. Vayne also struggles against heavy lock down, champs that can hit her from a spot that she can't fight back from, or champs that can burst her in a second (Caitlyn, Ashe, Nautilus, Leona, Kog). Thresh support doesn't really have any hard counters I suppose, he's a bit problematic. The good news is statistically, he loses games. And as for Yi, Yi has always been a champion that pentakills your team, sated devourer helps him do that but he's still the same champ. Something that I personally have found helpful against him is to have a huge bruiser that can 1v1 him or at least force him out of the fight near the backlines like Renekton or Hecarim.

Good luck, summoner.

SyvenonSep 14, 20151 votes

WE'RE NOT SUMMONERS ANYMORE DON'T USE THAT WORD NOW WE'RE "unseen controllers of champions who are loosely connected and fighting for no apparent reason"

theragingnerdSep 13, 20152 votes

seriously tho you salty yi is harder too play then you think it takes one cc spell

Maximum MordeSep 13, 20156 votes

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seriously tho you salty yi is harder too play then you think it takes one cc spell

He will just Q dodge your CC spell, while cutting you to half health at the same time.

theragingnerdSep 13, 20151 votes

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He will just Q dodge your CC spell, while cutting you to half health at the same time.

look at that YOU GOT OUT PLAYED boy just save it till he used his q or he has no chance too dodge

Diananmen SquareSep 13, 20153 votes

The problem is that if you don't throw the CC, he'll use his Sated Devourer autos to shred you.

If you do throw CC at him, he just Q dodges it.

Choose your favourite.

theragingnerdSep 13, 20152 votes

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The problem is that if you don't throw the CC, he'll use his Sated Devourer autos to shred you.

If you do throw CC at him, he just Q dodges it.

Choose your favourite.

if he's in auto range he'll be in no react time for cc zone bro and that just means the yi is good and or lucky

JasiwelSep 13, 20152 votes

Today I had two games. I lost one and won one. They were both the most enjoyable games I've had in weeks. Why you might ask? Because only 1/4 of the champions listed in the OP were in one of them. We won that game; the other game we lost quite fairly at a late game teamfight. The other games I've had lately involved losing horribly against any of those champions over and over again. The worst part is, I don't find analyzing their weaknesses or gimmicks to be all that helpful.

QuortSep 13, 20152 votes

So what? If you get upset whenever you see Champions you don't like fighting then you're going to have a bad time. People are going to play what they want to play where they want to play it, it's no big deal.