can we do something against bork already?

Critmaster Garen··3 votes·440 views

its way too effective without even stacking health.

ive just been laning a game malphite vs jax. did fine most of the lane phase, trades were either even or in my favour, as youd expect from an attack speed slowing armor tank who hard counters auto attacking champs. i saw that he was building towards a bork. so i deliberately avoided stacking too much health and focused just on a lot of armor with some health mixed in.

i came into lane with a item 3110 item 3047 and item 3751

he finished 1 item with the bork, and was able to massively outtrade me. i could do nothing but sit under the turret for that duration and play passive.

now im not hating on the champion, and i know he deals magic damage on every third strike. but he did that before he finished the item and i was able to hold my own. but i specifically tried to counter his build. and it had no effect. its not a problem of the champion, its one of the item. something like that simply shouldnt happen.

imo bork is way overtuned. it needs to be taken down a notch. or buff thornmail so we have some way to fight this item.

how much harder can you counter a champion and the item he builds?

11 Comments

luckmallory2 votes

It is over tuned but you should of built a item 3211 instead of a Bami's. He does way to much mixed damage between his W and Ult passive to just build straight armor. That is why he melted you

AdanChristo1 votes

downvote this bronze noob

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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downvote this bronze noob

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/37563787

i like how bronze and silvers are the first ones to accuse people of being shitty bronze and silvers.

hows the weather down in b4?

AdanChristo1 votes

lol u researched me, get rekt, 2nd how is an adc supposed to peel a 4k hp tank? thought so

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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lol u researched me, get rekt, 2nd how is an adc supposed to peel a 4k hp tank? thought so

maybe the same way they did since season 1? i.e. and last whisper have always done the job before bork existed.

my problem with the item is mostly with the active and the lifesteal it grants. nerfing bork has been long overdue.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

jax is problematic once he gets going. he deals a lot of mixed damage (not only with ult's passive, but his W also mate don't forget) honestly i never buy BOTRK on any champs because it feels like cheating

but its getting nerfed after "tehworldz" so its ok

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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jax is problematic once he gets going. he deals a lot of mixed damage (not only with ult's passive, but his W also mate don't forget) honestly i never buy BOTRK on any champs because it feels like cheating

but its getting nerfed after "tehworldz" so its ok

i dont feel like jax was the problem. when he just had item 1043 and item 1053 i was able to trade even or outtrade him even before i finished item 3110

he already dealt mixed damage then.

but as soon as he got bork, the powerspike it gave him was ridiculous.

its an item focused on attack speed and supposed to counter health stacking. he beat me with it in trades, even though i stacked armor and attack speed slows.

my build should have completely countered his, but it didnt. its ridiculous.

just to be clear. we won the game. im not just salty about a loss. i think there is something legitemately wrong with the item. its way overtuned.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

yeah but most of the damage was coming from his AA's (that i guess were slow as fuck since ur malph) or from W+3rd hit passive? but yeah i agree with u the botrk is stupid and was buffed for no reason

Alywan1 votes

Came in to downvote for :

  • Extreme passive, low skill cap champion
  • Extreme counter picking coward ( Malphite against Jax)
  • Extreme counter picking itemization (Frozen Heart - Ninja Tabi - Sunfire Cape)

And after all this, you complain about ONE ITEM ?

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Came in to downvote for :

  • Extreme passive, low skill cap champion
  • Extreme counter picking coward
  • Extreme counter picking itemization

are you actually serious? give me a reason why i wouldnt do either of these things? so according to you im supposed to play like a retard and not counterbuild or counterpick my oppenent.

this is probably the dumbest thing anyone has posted on these boards this week. congratulations, you should get an award for that. please dont reproduce.

and my problem with that 1 item is, that this 1 item was enough for him to outtrade me even though i did all the things on the list.

to be clear, i was able to outtrade him even without a frozen heart when he just had the components for the item. not anymore as soon as he finished it.

but good to know its getting nerfed.

Marthian1 votes

Probably should have built MR as well against Jax.

That said, BoRK is definitely a problematic item and it isn't just Jax, but also any AA-reliant fighter, or ADCs that rush it like Vayne or Kalista. Gives too much of a power spike, bot lane: It gives more benefits than rushing IE or TF, and some champions synergize too well with it.

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