Now that Thornmail has been gutted and Cinderhulk tanks are not must pick or ban

Sasogwa··26 votes·979 views

Can we rewert the item 3153 buff making so that the on-hit applies lifesteal?

It's not needed anymore and it's fucked up that the more health you have, you actually are helping your opponent survive by him lifestealing more on you.

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Streeton3 votes

no thanks

Sasogwa11 votes

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no thanks

Vayne player?

Streeton2 votes

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Vayne player?

no no no you got me all wrong my friend I am a zed player

Crett6 votes

My Enemy

LankPants6 votes

That's actually even worse.

Jungle Lux God2 votes

Basically the same thing.

Kaelnor1 votes

Even if it's vayne it's still going to be jsut as strong as on-hit is basically AA/Basic Attacks.

Melledoneus1 votes

Nerf the champions, not the item.

Don't take away my beautiful Jungle Aatrox... IT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT!

Slamurai Jack3 votes

I would rather they nerf item 3153 some other way; It never made sense that the on hit portion didn't apply for lifesteal since other on hit effects do like a sheen proc or Nasus Q. Botrk is definitely too good at the moment but I would prefer to nerf it some other way. I honestly just think it should cost more. Make it 3500 like BT. It already has a far better build path; it can afford to cost 300 more.

Myrddin1 votes

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I would rather they nerf item 3153 some other way, preferably by making it cost more. No good reason it shouldn't cost 3500 like item 3072.

item 3031 item 3072 item 3153

should all be 3800 and have 80 ad

LankPants4 votes

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item 3031 item 3072 item 3153

should all be 3800 and have 80 ad

Let's not.

55 AD is worth 1980 gold, throwing that onto BotRK for 600 gold would break the hell out of it.

Myrddin1 votes

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Let's not.

55 AD is worth 1980 gold, throwing that onto BotRK for 600 gold would break the hell out of it.

but but that's what they did with ap items

i dont understand

LankPants3 votes

but but that's what they did with ap items

i dont understand

Putting 55 extra AD on BotRK would be like taking Liandry's, giving it 100 AP, 20% Spellvamp, 20% CDR and buffing up the passive damage.

Myrddin1 votes

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Putting 55 extra AD on BotRK would be like taking Liandry's, giving it 100 AP, 20% Spellvamp, 20% CDR and buffing up the passive damage.

yes is there a problem with that?

xFrostKnightx1 votes

Not to mention, stats alone counting the price difference between a BotrK and IE/BT and turning that difference into purchasable ad.

BotrK is more cost effective and deals more damage over buying any of the high tier ad weapons.

Streeton2 votes

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item 3031 item 3072 item 3153

should all be 3800 and have 80 ad

lol no way

Earl Eulrich3 votes

honestly, they should just get rid of the item - it offers too much in about any situation. The old bloodrazor had been a great item as a niche to counter high-health, botrks "niche" on the other hand is that it helps assassinate, kite, 1v1 and killing tanks all in one item.

Sasogwa2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zrv3vJca,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-09-23T01:09:25.371+0000)

honestly, they should just get rid of the item - it offers too much in about any situation. The old bloodrazor had been a great item as a niche to counter high-health, botrks "niche" on the other hand is that it helps assassinate, kite, 1v1 and killing tanks all in one item.

Yeah, it is way too overloaded. AD, attack speed, lifesteal, on-hit with %health, active... Something has to go, or just scrap it and remove it. Tanks can be killed all right with other builds.

This item seems to work in every situation, give everything you need and have no real downside except a kinda weak buildpath after u got cutlass.

kJs1 votes

Yeah. Riot has stated that they aren't buffing the build path for Botrk because it offer so much after you complete it.

Matezoide2 votes

Blade of the ruined king is cancer.

Hotlin3 Fling1 votes

But it's the cancer keeping Twitch andQuinn need cancer to live

disregardable1 votes

I could reasonably see this post-thornmail nerf. No reason for lifesteal to be too strong.

Ace Access 1 votes

Vayne will NOT get to have a say in this matter

any objections ?

NazZomLord1 votes

Meh...i dont think it is really needed.

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