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Am I just completely out of my time or is the game becoming ridiculous?

Sasogwa·12/19/2018, 5:32:22 PM·99 votes·18,223 views

First off, I think about tankiness. No, not tanks, CC tanks, but tankiness in general. It just feels garbage. Resistances feel absolutely worthless. Conqueror's is insanely broken (broken as in, breaks the core system of resistance and destroys the whole purpose of it, not necessarily broken as "overpowered") and on its own, is defining tanky builds to be "stack health, resistances suck anyway, why would you ever build resistances".

It's bad. It's just.. crazy, what the fuck? I already fucking hated %max health true damage Fiora, and now everyone is Fiora? HOW ABOUT.. NO???

I mean at this point I'm just like.. idgaf if you give +20 AD to this keystone, just NERF THE TRUE DAMAGE CONVERSION PLEASE.

(and I'm saying this as a player who has Jax and Tryndamere amongst his most played mains, this is a fucking problem)

Crit on IE as true damage is also bad for the game.. but it sucks because, well, nobody buys resistances anymore ecks dee so IE is obviously weaker. Wanna be tanky? "just get steraks".

Then.. Essence reaver? Dafuq is that item? Like, hello? I don't play Summoner's Rift normal/ranked to play urf, thank you? (seriously it just feels outright broken. You're an absolute monster on like Jax or some other champions if you manage to auto only a few times to reset your cd's so much faster). It just feels.. broken, like, not following basic balance rules. Love this kind of broken-ish item in modes like Nexus blitz, but not in summoner's rift

Then.. balancing policy? Adc's are weak, let's buff their damage Tanks are weak, let's buff their damage Assassins are weak, let's buff their damage Mages are weak, let's buff their damage Bruisers are weak, let's buff their damage

HMMMMMMMMMMM it would seem there's a certain pattern.. weird right?

Let's not talk about the runes system where Riot is basically acknowledging runes reforged is just masteries reforged and their 3 rows of stats just a bad replacement of the old runes which you could customize so much more and have much more fun with out of meta setups...

I honestly don't know what to say, I play less than before but everytime I play it feels like a bad joke. true invisibility LUL btw, nice new champion kits/reworks /s

49 Comments

Nea10412/19/2018, 7:24:13 PM44 votes

I'm just disgusted by the fact that every game is a stomp, one way or another. And theyìre doing nothing about it.

Wonder why this game is still sinking.

i piss in jugs12/19/2018, 10:40:36 PM32 votes

I don't know. I just think that Syndra should be able to throw Teemo like a minion.

BigFBear12/19/2018, 8:32:49 PM25 votes

Just remove Runes COMPLETELY!!

It's responsible for this DMG Problem and will never be balanced.

Also it doesn't even make the game more fun. Most of the current runes are just boring.

Better rework the items (there are so much old, lame, weird items)! Items should make the game special and individual, not the runes. Items are IN the actual game (not outside, like runes) and they should be the one and only way for individualization.

The only thing that can stay is a system like the stat shards or old runes (if free) where you can chose if you wanna start wits AS, Armor, CDR, AD, Health etc.

Rαy12/19/2018, 9:57:58 PM13 votes

This is true, sadly.

There is barely any strategy or calm aspect about the game anymore. We button-mash each other to death in three-second teamfights and hope we are the last ones standing.

Most of the champions lost their identities as well. Everybody is more or less a damage dealer and dies insanely fast. Nobody can tank. Everyone is able to splitpush due to towers being hilariously weak defense-wise.

Runes Reforged should be reverted.

Slythion12/20/2018, 4:56:40 AM13 votes

Wanna be tanky? "just get steraks".

this part hurt to read simply because of how painfully true it is...I'm actually so fed up with the true damage/max health damage/cdr slapping design philosophy Riot has had

ZaneShadow12/20/2018, 12:34:09 AM8 votes

So, Just my opinion, but tankiness is fairly valuable. The issue is timing your entries. Too early and you get nuked by 5 man focus fire, which any one champion besides maybe a late game chogath should be. Too late and your team is already dead. Just right and you absorb a lot of key cooldowns, while your damage threats move in and make it so they can't burn litterally everything on you. Tanks will always be more powerful in cordinated play for this reason.

As for buffing tanks damage as the way to strengthen them... Kinda do agree that much. Turning tanks into bruisers isn't really that enjoyable in my opinion. Not every tank is in this catagory, but the recent ornn changes on the pbe seemed like absolutly massive damage boosts. Perhaps im wrong on that, but id rather have seen less damage and more of a boost to the tankiness. I think they've started avoiding that though, since its almost always one extreme or the other.

Tanks are either tanky enough to survive and pull off some rather powerful utility, or their not, and they can't. perhaps a damage direction is a better long term plan? Not sure on that but I think these Ornn changes might be the first of a series of experiments like that.

Raiyza12/19/2018, 6:56:07 PM8 votes

Nah bro. Internet cafe's need faster games. Sorry, man.

SUPERSATANA12/19/2018, 6:17:31 PM8 votes

The first that you said.

sphinxthelion712/19/2018, 6:47:20 PM6 votes

all true.

The Aggressor12/20/2018, 10:21:25 AM6 votes

Like a Rioter told me in-game, "Oh my bad, didn't realize you have a Masters Degree in game developing." Riot has a masters in game developing, yet doesnt even know how to balance their own game. Actually sad lmao.

DNFVixen12/20/2018, 12:49:34 AM5 votes

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First off, I think about tankiness. No, not tanks, CC tanks, but tankiness in general. It just feels garbage. Resistances feel absolutely worthless. Conqueror's is insanely broken (broken as in, breaks the core system of resistance and destroys the whole purpose of it, not necessarily broken as "overpowered") and on its own, is defining tanky builds to be "stack health, resistances suck anyway, why would you ever build resistances".

It's bad. It's just.. crazy, what the fuck? I already fucking hated %max health true damage Fiora, and now everyone is Fiora? HOW ABOUT.. NO???

I mean at this point I'm just like.. idgaf if you give +20 AD to this keystone, just NERF THE TRUE DAMAGE CONVERSION PLEASE.

(and I'm saying this as a player who has Jax and Tryndamere amongst his most played mains, this is a fucking problem)

Crit on IE as true damage is also bad for the game.. but it sucks because, well, nobody buys resistances anymore ecks dee so IE is obviously weaker. Wanna be tanky? "just get steraks".

Then.. Essence reaver? Dafuq is that item? Like, hello? I don't play Summoner's Rift normal/ranked to play urf, thank you? (seriously it just feels outright broken. You're an absolute monster on like Jax or some other champions if you manage to auto only a few times to reset your cd's so much faster). It just feels.. broken, like, not following basic balance rules. Love this kind of broken-ish item in modes like Nexus blitz, but not in summoner's rift

Then.. balancing policy? Adc's are weak, let's buff their damage Tanks are weak, let's buff their damage Assassins are weak, let's buff their damage Mages are weak, let's buff their damage Bruisers are weak, let's buff their damage

HMMMMMMMMMMM it would seem there's a certain pattern.. weird right?

Let's not talk about the runes system where Riot is basically acknowledging runes reforged is just masteries reforged and their 3 rows of stats just a bad replacement of the old runes which you could customize so much more and have much more fun with out of meta setups...

I honestly don't know what to say, I play less than before but everytime I play it feels like a bad joke. true invisibility LUL btw, nice new champion kits/reworks /s

i completely 100% agree I wish they would fix the issues in the game. I wonder how? OH I KNOW! It is simple, nerf problem champions and revert runes reforged back to Runes and Masteries and just makes the runes free and delete leathality runes.

Oburrawatabonobo12/20/2018, 4:43:27 AM5 votes

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UlyssesISR12/20/2018, 12:49:30 AM4 votes

I would like to see tanks actually be tanks. Right now they have overloaded CC kits and deal similar damage to builds that are designed to deal as much damage as possible. Armor/magic resist doesn't really mitigate damage, or if it does, it's doing a very poor job at it.

Handy Sandy 12/20/2018, 12:23:42 AM3 votes

Well it's not tank meta, that already came and went. Imo having high damage that kills you in a second is better than having someone stack hp and resistances, right click on you, and then laugh because there isn't enough damage on your team to get them under 80% hp.

Was there ever a time where damage and resistances were both equal and felt good to purchase?

Then.. balancing policy? Adc's are weak, let's buff their damage Tanks are weak, let's buff their damage Assassins are weak, let's buff their damage Mages are weak, let's buff their damage Bruisers are weak, let's buff their damage

well what else would you propose? Changing a champion's kit to buff them would take weeks and would leave champions in terrible states if they weren't the correct changes, and then they'd be left to rot (like Lissandra was) until Riot has the time to come back and sort them out. When an assassin is under performing because they can't kill anyone, do you buff their damage or nerf heal/shields? If you nerf heals/shields then they'll become weak in every other scenario they would otherwise be fine in. If you buff the assassin's damage, they can perform their job to a certain degree without affecting the other scenarios heals/shields dip into.

This Is Your Dad12/20/2018, 12:27:42 AM3 votes

I run damage on everything now. Malphite? Ap. J4? Ad. Sion? Ad. Sej? Ap. I never use resolve. Only moar damage.

Ałice12/20/2018, 2:59:08 AM2 votes

Exactly, health is all that matters, Bruisers can get similar amount of health, life-steal and shields at the same time from their items!!!!!!!!!

Tanks have nothing, absolutely nothing. Tank items that bruisers would NEVER use (item 3068 , item 3143 and team-support items like item 3109 and item 3190 ) should get buffed. Bruisers have the option to pick item 3075 , item 3800 and item 3742 , don't buff them.

Tomosima12/20/2018, 9:09:20 AM2 votes

I agree 101%

Peel For KogMaw12/20/2018, 5:08:50 PM2 votes

Man just the other day i was watching trick 2g's old video from like season 2 of him playing Garen with just aitem 3068 and dancing on him in lane while taking like 3 q's from nasus for 0 damage and I was thinking the same thing lmfao

your not really a tank unless your playingDrMundo

ISeeDumbPeople12/20/2018, 9:14:06 PM2 votes

Its a little bit of both... games aren't like they used to be and that is ok... but I wish we could have a "classic" mode sometimes hah. And yeah I think the balance team has taken leave of their senses and gone insane on many of these changes.

jurrrr12/20/2018, 7:47:32 AM1 votes

I think its noble riot is catering to the veterans of the game who have grown up and have less time to play the game. But it feels like the quality of the game took at hit because it wasn't natural.

hi ìm groot12/21/2018, 5:45:17 AM1 votes

On the IE thing, I really doubt people with IE do more damage to tanks than they would have with old IE. Having your crits to significantly more damage compared to having a small percentage of a crit go through armor?