Nobody complained about Maokai everybody complains about Vayne

Drunken Yasuo·10/16/2015, 5:28:55 AM·44 votes·2,628 views

22 Comments

Only Play Darius10/16/2015, 8:54:00 AM16 votes

Wish they would leave champions like Maokai alone, well designed isn't obnoxious to fight against doesn't feel overwhelming to deal with when strong, complete opposite of that fuck Vayne

Yonsi10/16/2015, 2:26:53 PM11 votes

Maokai has fell out of popularity due to repeated nerfs, most of which are small/indirect but added up to be huge.

  • First they reduced his healing on his passive
  • Next they nerfed Rightous Glory and Rod of Ages, both of which builds out of catalyst which is an excellent early item for him
  • Then they nerf Frozen Heart which means that all of his first built items have been nerfed and he can no longer sustain as well as he could before
  • Lastly they nerf his ult meaning that he can't use it for wave clear and it's not up in lane all the time like it was before.

He's not unviable yet. He still does his job of locking down targets and tanking a lot of damage. However he gets less stats for a build that cost more and now your ult isn't up anywhere near as much as before level 16+. It was multiple nerfs that killed his popularity and not just one giant nerf.

Red Ryu10/16/2015, 5:34:47 AM6 votes

Enough of the meme already, it's overdone.

Wait til after world and the Marksman update.

KONO RUBICK DA10/16/2015, 9:03:27 AM4 votes

why are you putting a dota 2 picture?

Abyssphere10/16/2015, 3:43:51 PM2 votes

There's no source for the Vayne win rate drop. On op.gg she's dropped by over 1% but we'll get a better picture tomorrow when Lolking and champion.gg update. The 0.15% win rate drop for Vayne doesn't exist.

Karn Bishop10/16/2015, 5:58:37 AM2 votes

Maokai fell from power simply due to meta shift, he is a slow jungler which is bad, and top laners are looking for worthy opponents and nobody thinks trees are worthy opponents.

DrNova10/17/2015, 1:19:08 AM1 votes

Do you only have the one tired old meme?

Axxlon10/17/2015, 1:31:59 AM1 votes
TurquoiseYoshi10/17/2015, 3:27:33 AM1 votes

I mean, Nautilus has also fallen out of the top lane meta, and he didn't really get nerfs. The meta everywhere else just changed, and top tends to change with everyone else.

KatCraft10/17/2015, 4:48:21 AM1 votes

Mao Kai's problem is he gets completely trashed by Darius and Fiora.

WolfBV10/17/2015, 7:04:39 AM1 votes

A 3 AD nerf made her win rate drop X3