True Damage

Drunken Yasuo·Aug 20, 2015·167 votes·10,078 views

YOU GET TRUE DAMAGE YOU GET TRUE DAMAGE YOU GET TRUE DAMAGE YOU GET TRUE DAMAGEEEEE!!! EVERYBODY GETS TRUE DAMAGE!!!!!!!!

122 Comments

MannysmokerAug 20, 201585 votes

Well at least Syndra can be justified, since she doesn't have a passive until Lv 9

XeroKimoAug 20, 201531 votes

Garen Doesn't get true damage until an ally dies

Edit: And has to to be level 6

TyroneWatermelonAug 21, 20151 votes

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Doesn't get true damage until an ally dies

Edit: And has to to be level 6

Late game it's enough for a target to miss 1000 health and it deals around 1000 true dmg

AbyssionKnightAug 21, 20153 votes

To be fair though, Cho'gath ult had higher base damage and .7 ap scaling rather than scaling based on missing health, so it'll do more damage consistently at a faster pace than Garen's...without being limited to a specific enemy team member.

TyroneWatermelonAug 21, 20152 votes

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To be fair though, Cho'gath ult had higher base damage and .7 ap scaling rather than scaling based on missing health, so it'll do more damage consistently at a faster pace than Garen's...without being limited to a specific enemy team member.

Don't forget the aoe silence aoe knock up and sustain

InsaneSamuraiAug 21, 20152 votes

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Well at least can be justified, since she doesn't have a passive until Lv 9

Except you can buff her in a thousand ways using something that isn't supposed to be a rare, unique mechanic. Does she really even need it? I played her one time in the last year and it was the easiest mid game I've ever had, she's pretty damn strong as it is and I don't even know how to play her.

BakedLotionAug 21, 201515 votes

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Except you can buff her in a thousand ways using something that isn't supposed to be a rare, unique mechanic. Does she really even need it? I played her one time in the last year and it was the easiest mid game I've ever had, she's pretty damn strong as it is and I don't even know how to play her.

last year. Do u know how hard she was nerfed in one year?

OrbvAug 21, 20152 votes

She only received 20 less base damage on her Q...

That in addition to Deathfire being removed, were her only hard nerfs.

But now she gets 35 + 9% AP True damage starting at lvl 9.

Stereo DreamerAug 21, 20152 votes

She received various bugfix nerfs on her stun as well making it unreliable and/or just smaller.

Also, 20 damage less on the main skill is a little bit huge on a Mage whose AA's almost do more damage than a starting Sphere.

FasmodeyAug 21, 20152 votes

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She only received 20 less base damage on her Q...

That in addition to Deathfire being removed, were her only hard nerfs.

But now she gets 35 + 9% AP True damage starting at lvl 9.

She always had this damage. It's just true damage now. It means it will not be noticeable against squishies. Stop acting like they added 35 + %9 damage more. Even with 1000 AP, it's 125 true damage. Against a champion who has %50 magic reduction, this bonus is 62.25 damage. She always had this damage.

OrbvAug 24, 20151 votes

You are literally fighting for the exact same point I am trying to make.

Baked Lotion commented that she was heavily nerfed. I commented that she barely was and is pretty much the same. You argued that I make her sound more powerful than she is. Are you saying that she is weaker because of this? Because otherwise, we're trying to reach the same point.

FasmodeyAug 24, 20151 votes

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You are literally fighting for the exact same point I am trying to make.

Baked Lotion commented that she was heavily nerfed. I commented that she barely was and is pretty much the same. You argued that I make her sound more powerful than she is. Are you saying that she is weaker because of this? Because otherwise, we're trying to reach the same point.

It didn't look like this, then sorry.

LeeDarkAug 21, 201524 votes

"I played her one time in the last year..."

Yeah, pretty sure almost EVERYONE stopped caring about your opinion right about there.

PopCorn Chick3nAug 21, 20152 votes

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Well at least can be justified, since she doesn't have a passive until Lv 9

And her power is limitless soooooooooooooo :P

Ironclad DragonAug 21, 201510 votes

"We want true damage to be a rare thing."

Or was that just "HP% true damage"?

TurquoiseYoshiAug 21, 20153 votes

It was %health true damage. Only Garen (against his rival), Fiora, and Vayne have it.

True damage is countered by HP stacking, so it isn't as bad for tanks as some seem to think.

Tychusfindlay919Apr 2, 20161 votes

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It was %health true damage. Only Garen (against his rival), Fiora, and Vayne have it.

True damage is countered by HP stacking, so it isn't as bad for tanks as some seem to think.

Inb4 Vayne And Garen to a much much much smaller extent (garen is not OP by any means, I still hold that his crappy ass is UP).

TurquoiseYoshiApr 2, 20161 votes

1: That was 8 months ago. 2: That's exactly what I said. True damage is countered by HP stacking, but %max HP true damage, existent on 3 champions and common on 2, is uncounterable by items. That's why it's rare.

AMYS GRAVEApr 12, 20171 votes

And soon any amumu who builds liandries.

Rustling BushAug 21, 20152 votes

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"We want true damage to be a rare thing."

Or was that just "HP% true damage"?

Gnar Vayne Twitch Garen Fiora Syndra Gangplank -rare-

SaltyToplaneGoatAug 21, 20153 votes

Gnar has no true damage, his W procs magical damage.

hunter1901Apr 12, 20171 votes

Irelia Darius Chogath You forgot a few

FallingMeteorAug 21, 201510 votes

Soraka deals true damage.....to herself....

GorgannanAug 21, 20158 votes

I am ok with Syndra's true damage. It's 15% bonus damage, not 15% of their total health.

I don't like the new tank buster meta that's gonna be happening soon.

I already hate playing vs. the new Fiora.

ChaoticPineconeAug 20, 20157 votes

pssssst

you forgot Gangplank

CasterGilgameshAug 21, 20157 votes

syndra is pretty bad right now tbh lol i like her but she needs some buffs

SouL1essAug 20, 20156 votes

Syndra's Q bonus damage from her passive should have been true damage on release, and I am not sure why it wasn't.

Syndra still need her Q to not suck before she is level 5 in order to be a viable mid lane mage.

Count BuffonAug 21, 20156 votes

Literally everyone.

item 3143 item 3075

Enjoy item 3047 while you still can. It's the only armor item left in the game.

Ace Access Aug 21, 20153 votes

shhhh shut up before riot notices the item 3047 is still intact

Count BuffonAug 21, 20154 votes

Zilean should let you choose which patch you play on...

Captain AishiAug 21, 20151 votes

randuins is situationally better vs ADCs (late game) now though, if you take around 3 crits from an ADC in a fight, you block more (post mitigation) damage than the 100HP of stats that was removed

Count BuffonAug 21, 20152 votes

"Situationally" meaning "against Ashe". It's not Season 2 anymore. And you're also forgetting about the armor. You don't really see crit chances over 50% that often lately, and 0-10% is completely viable on many (10% from Trinity Force).

Celeste BenalAug 21, 20151 votes

Ah-ha-ha-ha! I didn';t even think of that. Ashe doesn't actually crit. She just does more damage based on crit chance. So Randuin's useless vs her other than as a stat stick.

Count BuffonAug 21, 20152 votes

The wiki claims that they count as crits, all of them. I just checked. I think if you attack before applying Frost with a skill, though, this one attack can't crit, because the target isn't frosted yet.

UrPalAlAug 20, 20154 votes

Fiora? You mean the chick that's at a 42% winrate? AIght, man.

I will say though, I expect it to climb after her recent buff.

A Prop PhoneAug 21, 20153 votes

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Fiora? You mean the chick that's at a 42% winrate? AIght, man.

I will say though, I expect it to climb after her recent buff.

It climbed from 38 to 42 lulz.

UrPalAlAug 21, 20153 votes

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It climbed from 38 to 42 lulz.

I mean, I wasn't wrong.

LordGeovanniAug 21, 20154 votes

bend over you fuking tanks

Charmed by AhriAug 20, 20152 votes

psst. My skill shot does true damage. lol

Zone of EndlessAug 21, 20152 votes

Everybody ignoring Syndra's E massive buff when maxed.

going from 50% to 100% is a huge range increase

BooleansAug 21, 20157 votes

Width, not range. Just makes it easier to land when someone is on top of you or when people are coming at you from multiple flanks.

BlainezyAug 21, 20152 votes

Syndra need the buffs. And still needs some. Brand is super strong after the AP item updates and is a very high counter to the infamous Viktor.

PiVoRxAug 21, 20152 votes

There was once a time when having a true damage was unique MasterYi item 3070 .

Now Yi is a shadow of everyone else with True Damage.

Dr PoroAug 21, 20152 votes

Yi got his tru dmg from Irelia

Sid88Aug 21, 20152 votes

TRUE DAMAGE TRUE DAMAGE FOR EVERYBODAYYY!!!!! Twitch

CalabokAug 20, 20151 votes

Let's buff this chick but leave Brand in the dust...

AuryielAug 20, 201514 votes

True damage on Brand's passive? :D

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omg that would be so OP XD

revliledpembrokeAug 21, 20154 votes

I saw someone that claimed his passive used to proc on aa's. Dunno how true it is though.

Fear PopoAug 21, 20157 votes

It's half true, he was never released that way, but pre-release, his autos did in fact proc his passive. They wisely realized that was fucking stupid, and removed it, but that's why Brand has one of the best auto attack animations of the old mages.