EXP is STILL too low across the board.

VoraciousX··2 votes·253 views

Just played on a smurf, and when I lost a game, 46 exp. When I won a game, 70-90 something. I'm about 85% from a level up. How much do I need to level up? 160 experience. The fact that people even got to level 30 before astounds me. The EXP rate is always CONSTANT, meaning the required exp always goes up but the exp required to level up is always the same. I've played like 5 games on my smurf today, and I was probably about 30-40% from leveling up then. Granted those were on Ascension and they lasted about 20 minutes each, the exp rate from my previous SR games was almost identical, give or take 20 exp. I just found an EXP table for the old exp, and since all exp was halved, I added up the table and divided it by 2, and got 20041.5 exp required from level 1 to level 30. Dividing that by 90(the normal exp I got for winning) I got about 223 games WON(most of the games I played lasted 30 minutes, some games last a lot longer) required to level from 1 to 30, 400 games LOST. I then took the average exp of the win and loss to get an average requirement of games from level 1-30 and got 287(I rounded up because you can't have 1/3rd of a game and rounding down would be impossible as you'd still have to play another full game to get that exp) games required with a 50% win rate. Playing 5 games a day that'd take 57 days. That's almost 2 months before you even really get STARTED. Even worse it used to be 4 months. Kinda ridiculous imo. I suppose you could use level 20 as a starting point if you really wanted to, but even then you're still going quite a ways in time spent getting to even that.

I'd like to suggest giving more experience per game, but lowering the access of exp as you get higher in levels. For example beginner bots giving you exp until level 5 or 10, but then no longer giving exp, forcing you up to intermediate bots from 5 or 10-15, afterwards which only PVP games give exp.

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Automated Riven3 votes

The idea behind leveling up is so that new players learn to play before jumping into ranked. and its the price you pay for making a smurf.

VoraciousX1 votes

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The idea behind leveling up is so that new players learn to play before jumping into ranked. and its the price you pay for making a smurf.

While I agree, I think 287 games is significantly MORE than enough to jump into ranked, if you're FORCED to play vs other players for most of those games. I honestly don't know how I even survived playing over 400 games just to get to level 30 on my account. I've also added friends on those smurfs who never logged in again. The slow pacing I'm sure is a big part of that.

It honestly doesn't take much to start going into ranked, and honestly ranked is it's own environment, it's a lot different than normal games to begin with. You learn how to play ranked BY playing ranked. If people had to play 150 games to level from 1 to 30, but only 50 of those games were bot games(from beginner to intermediate), I'd say they had enough experience in normal games to get into ranked, assuming they had around a 50% win rate. It'd obviously be a lot more games if they didn't.

Even 150 games is basically one full month.

Shuyin1781 votes

Good, it should take 3-4 months for players to reach level 30 so they actually have an idea of how the game mechanics work. Most players are still bad even after they reach level 30, so honestly the longer it takes them to reach 30 the better it is for everyone else that has to eventually deal with them when they do finally get there.

Shuyin1781 votes

Then don't smurf like a scrub?

VoraciousX1 votes

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Then don't smurf like a scrub?

I don't know what you're replying to, as I've said, a NEW PLAYER's experience isn't going to be enjoyable from level 1 to 30. They literally have to play 5 games every day for 2 months to get to level 30, which is arguably the beginning of the game. I only play on my smurf occasionally and it's usually because 1. I wanted to make a summoner with a specific name and I plan on using it for a specific playstyle, or 2, to gain champions I don't plan on playing on my main account since it takes so long to get IP required for all of them. I rarely play on my smurfs, and I don't see an issue with smurfing, especially considering it's not like I'm taking it to ranked games to pubstomp people who are lower than me(I barely even play ranked).

Shuyin1781 votes

Something you're avoiding with your shitpost. The only reason you're complaining about required EXP is because you're smurfing. If you didn't smurf then you wouldn't care because it's taking you forever to reach level 30 on your side account.

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