Can we please just...try...to achieve victory in games, even if they're normals...

VoraciousX·Jun 8, 2017·32 votes·1,287 views

When you're in one of those games that no one wants to group up and do anything and you know it's gonna end with you losing because every time it happens that's how it ends, for 60 minutes...yes...60 minutes, it is no longer just "having fun" You're holding whoever wants to actually win(or just have the game end) hostage in that game because you don't. Don't be like that, it's frustrating and not everyone plans on playing for an hour only to lose. I honestly can understand the desire to AFK in games because this has been happening quite frequently lately and I'm getting tired of it. Please, if you're ahead, just help the person who's fed kill the nexus instead of chasing your tails(or worse, a Rammus....). It's never fun being in a game that ends in a stalemate because no one will group and then everyone just catches up because you allowed them to.

18 Comments

RK N0vaJun 8, 201711 votes

The ones that get me are the players who lack any resilience. It's like touching a charred piece of paper, watching it break apart into a million pieces and scatter everywhere. "gg, I'm done", says the person in lane - x when the score is tied and it's only 12 min in; but they died, so it's gg.

Don't get me wrong, what you described can be irritating as well, but at least in your case, they still express the will to keep playing. I'm still running into games where players want to be handed a free win, or quit.

MetalGearTeemuJun 8, 20171 votes

Unfortunately in adding early surrender riot just vindicated people who give up early in the game, suggesting their behavior is somehow justified in a team game, and now you get to look forward to a surrender vote being shot down and a guy afking at the 15 minute mark rather then the 20 minute mark.

If anything they should be harsher on this sort of people. Believe in throws idiots, they believe in you, else how would we have gotten this far behind in the first place? [zombie-brand-clap]

58697132DEL1Jun 8, 20179 votes

it's amazing to me that people actually take OFFENSE to the notion of trying to win a game. Like legitimately baffling how someone will sign up to spend 30+ minutes on average to lose a game. "I just play for fun" yeah me too you know whats fun? Seeing the rewards of my constant practice and skill/experience being applied to help my team achieve victory.

DOUBLE TILTING IN RANKED QUEUES LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!? Had a shit ass Kog JG and im like srsly? And he said whatever it's bronze who cares. IDK maybe those of us trying to LEAVE bronze?

Supreme Senpai69Jun 9, 20171 votes

I've seen it widely defended on the boards, too. "If you want to win go play ranked. Normals is for fun." Well, yes, but your fun doesn't come at the expense of everyone else's! Winning is fun for everybody. It's the point of the game. It can be fun trying to win as AP Ezreal, sure go crazy. as long as you're trying to win and not quitting or feeding in the enemy jungle or not ending the game.

MorticianjohnJun 9, 20171 votes

Sometimes I just know that I'm going to lose the game no matter what I do. I'll do that in normals. An example is the first time that I try out Yasuo (has yet to happen). I know for sure I'm going to lose hard when I first try out that champion. It isn't that I'm not trying but when I'm 0/6/2 or whatever just let it go understanding that it's normals, not ranked. This is where we practice and try new things.

VoraciousXJun 9, 20171 votes

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Sometimes I just know that I'm going to lose the game no matter what I do. I'll do that in normals. An example is the first time that I try out Yasuo (has yet to happen). I know for sure I'm going to lose hard when I first try out that champion. It isn't that I'm not trying but when I'm 0/6/2 or whatever just let it go understanding that it's normals, not ranked. This is where we practice and try new things.

That isn't the issue though, picking a champion you're not familiar with, or doing badly with him isn't the point of the thread at all. It's doing stupid shit like chasing after a Rammus trying to kill him when you have all of their inhibitor turrets up ready to be taken, there's baron and a dragon and 3 of their team is dead.

Supreme Senpai69Jun 9, 20171 votes

^. Practice is for normals. That's understandable. Even a 0/6/2 Yasuo can help win a game by splitpushing, or having them chase him around the top lane while your team gets dragon, or knocking people up so his carries can melt them, windwalling something to protect his team, etc. Trying to win is the name of the game. Doing bad is ok

doiminat0r3600Jun 8, 20174 votes

Even in ARAM. Please. Tired of playing an AP and getting yelled at for going damage and not tank when we have a full AP Zac on our team that never engages.

I don't care if people try different builds in ARAM. But atleast try to win with them.

ZelorxonJun 8, 20172 votes

NO LOL, I'M A BRONZETARD AND I DON'T LIKE TRYHARDING XD I LIKE TO LOSE XD LOSING IS FUNNY XD CHILL BRO, IT'S JUST A GAME XD

Oh what's that? did i just wasted 40 mins of your life?

XDDD THANK YOU RIOT FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO FEEL POWER IN MY PATHETIC AND MISERABLE LIFE XD

What? did you told me to right click an inhib that had 4 waves stacked after an ace?

TOXIC REPROTED XDDDDDXXXDDD

ThePikolJun 8, 20171 votes

Fck normals! I want my team to try in Flex!

Automated RivenJun 8, 20171 votes

I always try to win. But I don't always play meta.

MetalGearTeemuJun 8, 20171 votes

my favorite part of this game is taking toplane blitzcrank, beating the top laner by 20 cs and 2 kills, and then hearing about how I'm the reason we lost from my 3 and 14 combined bot lane.

VoraciousXJun 9, 20171 votes

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I always try to win. But I don't always play meta.

The game that made me salty enough to actually write about it, I was playing Xayah top(been playing her there for a while, it's pretty fun). Playing off meta isn't the issue, it's more people just doing nothing while you're trying to push down towers because they just wanna chase someone to the ends of the earth while the three others on the enemy team are down for 40 seconds. I've had this kind of thing happen a lot in most of my recent games, but this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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The ones that get me are the players who lack any resilience. It's like touching a charred piece of paper, watching it break apart into a million pieces and scatter everywhere. "gg, I'm done", says the person in lane - x when the score is tied and it's only 12 min in; but they died, so it's gg.

Don't get me wrong, what you described can be irritating as well, but at least in your case, they still express the will to keep playing. I'm still running into games where players want to be handed a free win, or quit.

I almost always think a game can be won in most occasions, provided everyone is actually trying to win the game by killing the nexus, not dominating the enemy team over and over and over until they eventually catch up and outscale. The times I do think it's pointless to even be playing are when I am playing someone who, if they fall behind, they're donezo and despite checking my ping beforehand for a good 5 minutes, suddenly I'm getting 300 ping and everything is taking 3 seconds, and I die like 3 times to the enemy laner who picked someone who, once they get 6, they can carry hard as long as they have one item, and my team is just throwing themselves at them despite me pleading for a 15 minute surrender where I can't even stay under tower and all lanes have lost and I'm literally unable to do a thing to help my team, and two duo'd players refuse for the whole game to surrender. Games like that I really see the value in just AFKing. It's too bad for me since I refuse to do so.

Xion The XIVJun 9, 20171 votes

Yea I have constantly been seeing this behavior happening in ranked and Normals. "It's only normals" when they go 1/15 by the 20 minute mark. I don't mind people testing builds testing new champions (Since Bots is a joke to test anything in), but at least take it seriously. I just don't like people will feed their asses off and just say, "It's only normals chill out".

VoraciousXJun 10, 20171 votes

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Yea I have constantly been seeing this behavior happening in ranked and Normals. "It's only normals" when they go 1/15 by the 20 minute mark. I don't mind people testing builds testing new champions (Since Bots is a joke to test anything in), but at least take it seriously. I just don't like people will feed their asses off and just say, "It's only normals chill out".

If they're feeding intentionally I see this as a problem but otherwise I don't think it's a major issue. The major issue going on that I'm seeing is when your team is severely ahead and they decide to dick around for the rest of the game until they catch up, instead of closing out the game.

Xion The XIVJun 10, 20171 votes

Yea I don't mind people doing Off Meta things. I enjoy Alistar top and Alistar JG. It's the point of them not really trying to win. I have had a game before when someone went AD Singed. Was funny, but at least he tried to win even with something that does not help his kit at all.

Qzply76Jun 9, 20171 votes

If you care so much about winning play ranked. Normals are literally just for fun and practicing. When those are met, there's no point in playing.

VoraciousXJun 10, 20171 votes

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If you care so much about winning play ranked. Normals are literally just for fun and practicing. When those are met, there's no point in playing.

It's not fun to be stuck in a game for a full hour because people want to do stupid crap. Dying is fine, sure it's not good but it's not something I'd be pissed off at. I have issues in games just like everyone else, but again when you're chasing a Rammus all over tarnation when their base is open for the taking and his allies(bar 1) are dead, you're just delaying the game and going to force a loss out of it while you're winning. I am sure I'm not the only one who hates this behavior because they don't like to be stuck in a game for an hour knowing they're gonna lose because their team keeps dragging it on. I had a game earlier where I had to almost solo carry the game(soloed rift herald, dragon, and 2 manned baron as a top laner). I literally had to beg for us all to come together in the end and they finally listened when I cracked open their inhib. Playing for fun is fine, but it's not fun anymore at the 50 minute mark when the enemy team is making a comeback on a game could have been ended at the 30 minute mark because they have late game champions and you don't.