[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zcd5gfGb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-18T08:13:16.412+0000)
Nunu's win rate is low because he just got reworked and people have no idea how to play him.
Gragas is doomed to be in the shitter because of his relevance in pro play.
Also, I do not see how win rate directly correlates to jungle clear speed. Having a 46% win rate doesn't automatically mean your clear is bad.
I guess, but Nunu is getting buffed either way next patch, meaning that even riot thinks he's "too weak". I don't think they should be buffing his ratios, but they should be buffing his base AD or attack speed to not make him OP. You're right about Gragas tho