New Support Items

Stonington·11/18/2015, 3:07:40 AM·2 votes·1,498 views

First off the 'Eye' items are a great idea in theory, but they suck in comparison to the traditional gold generation item line. Lets break it down the gold value of the Eye line vs the traditional gold generation item line plus a regular sight stone.

Eye of the Watchers = 50hp, 800 gold, and an extra ward charge.

Sight Stone and Frost Queen's Claim = 25ap, 10%cdr, and 2 spooky ghosts that slow 2 enemies by 40% for 4 seconds a piece*.

This comes out to about 933 gold extra/bonus stats for Eye of the Watchers and 844 in stats for Frost Queen + Sight Stone. This means 2 spooky ghosts have to be worth more than 1 ward charge and 89 gold to be cost efficient. Well hot damn, my choice is made for me. It's obviously better to buy Frost Queen.

Face of the Mountain vs Eye of Equinox. The active on FotM has to be worth 100 gold plus one ward charge, which I'd say is easily in favour of FotM. A shield that's at least 150-200 hp and can slow everyone in an aoe by 40% is worth more than 100 gold and 1 ward charge.

Talisman of Ascension vs Eye of Oasis is a bit more balanced. The Talisman active has to be worth 934 gold and 1 ward charge. But as we all know, Talisman has always probably been the best active item in the game and is worth every penny.

The only time I think we'll see the Eye of Watcher and Equinox is possibly in competitive due to the nature of the game. In solo queue I don't think you have a valid reason to purchase the Eye items.

5 Comments

Aeolian Melodies11/18/2015, 3:11:12 AM1 votes

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The only time I think we'll see the Eye of Watcher and Equinox is possibly in competitive due to the nature of the game. In solo queue I don't think you have a valid reason to purchase the Eye items.

I actually think these new items have more value in casual play where you can actually make use of the extra slot provided (vision + gold taken care of in 1 item instead of 2) to build either another tanky item or a luxury AP item to help you carry (especially on dmg supports), whereas competitive supports who seldom get to buy actual items will be better off with the traditional items, as the actives will be more valuable to them than slot efficiency.

Bonipherus11/18/2015, 3:12:07 AM1 votes

Basically those hybrid items fill no niche other than to give you an extra slot for another item. But that's only useful after what? nearly an hour of play time on a supports income?

Truly Prideful11/18/2015, 3:14:35 AM1 votes

The only time I ever see value in taking the new items is if you can outright buy a full "big" item like a deathcap with the slot. A majority of the time I've just been taking the old items and upgrading to ruby sightstone to get the ward back they robbed me of.

CasterGilgamesh11/18/2015, 3:26:33 AM1 votes

i personally love the new items for support i get more money than i did with the old ones i dont care about the abilities if i can freely build that extra tank item on my tank support thanks to item 2303 on Braum.and every other support that uses item 2301 will be able to buy more ap items Soraka Janna Nami