What champion do you hate playing against with a passion?

Tentakill Myself··43 votes·18,335 views

Mine is definitely Udyr / Zed. They're so absurd in all chat whenever they get a kill. Gets on my damn nerves.

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RiotRiot Tiki67 votes

Hmm, it's a tough call for me between Riven and Nidalee

Riven primarily because of her lack of resource. I don't love how much damage she does, or her mobility, but it feels like a slap in the face that she can do that much at no mana cost.

Nidalee because rogue doom spears flying out of the fog of war is fun for no one except Nidalee

Tentakill Myself3 votes

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Hmm, it's a tough call for me between Riven and Nidalee

Riven primarily because of her lack of resource. I don't love how much damage she does, or her mobility, but it feels like a slap in the face that she can do that much at no mana cost.

Nidalee because rogue doom spears flying out of the fog of war is fun for no one except Nidalee

Now I know to expect Riven and Nidalee nerfs next patch.

Lol jk.

dráaaaaaaaaven14 votes

Wow. Even Rioters hate Nidalee

Is she just un-nerfable?

RiotRiot Tiki26 votes

Yeah, we have feelings too! Especially when it comes to what it feels like to play as and against certain champs.

I'm all seriousness though, I believe in the design team and don't envy their job. Trying to figure out how to balance 1 champ in an ecosystem of over 100. How we think about champ design and balance has changed a lot in the past few years, and that can make dealing with the balance of champs (especially older ones) really difficult.

Doesn't stop me cringing everytime i queue against nidalee right now :)

Keevalroy6 votes

I believe in the design team

At least someone does, even if it's someone from within the walls. Cinderhulk is one of the only things well-received from them since before the season started. I'd like to hope they can pull themselves together and realize the way they're balancing is hypocritical and dishonest, but I (like most,) have lost too much faith and respect for them.

Doktor X11 votes

Happy to see a Red chime in with their personal views on a champion. There should be more of this. (PS, I don't think Nidalee is that bad, but that's my take.)

Condottiero5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tiki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zY0NuQZm,comment-id=007600030000,timestamp=2015-03-06T20:50:46.659+0000)

Yeah, we have feelings too! Especially when it comes to what it feels like to play as and against certain champs.

I'm all seriousness though, I believe in the design team and don't envy their job. Trying to figure out how to balance 1 champ in an ecosystem of over 100. How we think about champ design and balance has changed a lot in the past few years, and that can make dealing with the balance of champs (especially older ones) really difficult.

Doesn't stop me cringing everytime i queue against nidalee right now :)

You're honestly the first Rioter who I've seen criticise a champion's balance.

Keevalroy4 votes

You're honestly the first Rioter who I've seen criticise a champion's balance.

Yeah really, I was expecting Phreak to make another appearance and rush to defend the champions regurgitating the same transparent contradicting BS he usually spews out when Riot's balance and design come into question. We're slowly starting to see Rioters who actually understand the views of the community for once, and it's a very welcome sight.

Thank you Tiki, thank you for not acting high and mighty, telling us we're wrong because of (insert grossly opinionated bias here) or just because you have a red name.

AbsoluteSadman7 votes

Those anthrax coated nuclear bombs are spears?

RiotRiot Tiki46 votes

It's OK friends, she has a heal and high mobility to balance the power of her spears ;)

IAMS4T4N55 votes

TOP:Riven Nidalee MID:Nidalee Riven JG:Riven Nidalee ADC:Riven Nidalee SUPPORT:Nidalee Riven ALL IN ALL:Riven Nidalee

EDIT: YOU DOWNVOTED CAUSE YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH

Zmuecat49 votes

Kalista.

I'd prefer seeing Lee buffed and allowed to be picked by both teams than having to deal with her with her current passive.

JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP. Oh, you got FH? Still dodging all of your skill shots, kiting to absurd levels, and saving my oathsworn if for some reason you decide to reduce my power indirectly. Or HEY, let's give EVERY champion that oathsworns with her a mini (very mini) Malph ult. Did I mention JUMP JUMP JUMP JUMP.

I'm sorry, I can't stand playing with or against her, and if this game didn't punish leaving, she would be the only champion I'd leave a game when picked by either team.

EDIT: And don't forget her moving wards. Yeah, they aren't super reliable and you can easily walk around them, but come on... Why? Why is a mobile ward an ability for an ADC? I saw one Kalista have 3 patrolling the river. I doubt it's game breaking, but you could have reworked Hawkshot to do something like that and give Ashe a little love on her vision, not JUMP ALLDAYEVERYDAY KALISTA.

revliledpembroke13 votes

I had a Kalista that bonded with Katarina in ARAM once. And their team also had Zilean. Kat would go in, ult, we'd almost kill her, Kalista saves her and throws her back in, we almost kill her again, Zilean ults her, and she comes back to life, with full health, and kills us all. Sigh That Kat went like 30/5 or something. As if she wasn't annoying enough in ARAM already.

ApexInTheCircle35 votes

Katarina I feel like no matter how hard I shut her down in lane, any competent Katarina will get fed eventually and be devastating late game simply because of her ability to snowball even after lane phase is over.

pE4CbxDPQO15 votes

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Katarina I feel like no matter how hard I shut her down in lane, any competent Katarina will get fed eventually and be devastating late game simply because of her ability to snowball even after lane phase is over.

I know your pain. Oh you had her 0/3 with 22cs at 11minutes? That's nice. Excuse your bot lane and jungler for handing her a triple.

Same as Akali.

agbudar32 votes

Kalista this Kalista fukin Kalista bi***.

im glad everyone sucks with her in my elo because she is not fun to play against regardless of who you are.

Truthteller5 votes

If every Kalista in your elo sucks then why do you still die to her?

agbudar8 votes

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If every Kalista in your elo sucks then why do you still die to her?

i met a good/fed one once that experience was fukin horrible after that didn't meet many good kalista's (thank god)

Quort26 votes

Top: Darius I'm so scared of him early game. I have nightmares of fighting Darius from my earlier days of League. Nasus I hate having to babysit him all game! Leave lane for a moment and he'll wreck your towers and come back with a hundred more stacks.

Jungle: Shaco When Shaco jumps me I tend to lose it, spam everything everywhere, and then die like an idiot. :/ Nunu This abomination! He exists solely to torment enemy junglers! D:

Mid: Malzahar I don't find Malzahar very fun to play against in general. Fizz Always annoying to play against.

ADC: Draven If he gets fed, he one-shots tanks. I don't care what anyone says, Draven is a scary ADC when played well! Graves Bleh.

SUP: Blitzcrank Don't get grabbed, don't get grabbed, don't get grabbed, don't ge- "You have been slain." Braum Braum really grinds my gears. Hate that passive of his! x3

Taryn25 votes

Blitzcrank

The fact that he wins lane just by standing there spamming laugh is 100x more oppressive than Sona ever could dream to be.

Narasimha19 votes

Urgot. Its either

"Dude, why do you have to troll your own team? :("

or

"....Well damn I just got wrecked."

No in betweens.

supes the lost5 votes

The Urgod mains are pretty terrifying, I will agree

libraryseraph 18 votes

Thresh mother fucking hooks

Fed by Snu Snu17 votes

Any manaless one. And by that I mean the modern manaless ones who pay no price for that perk.

Including the nerfed version of Yasuo.

I just don't like having to play a game where I get pushed with no cost at all, forcing me to expend tons of mana to even try to stabilize the lane. (doesn't help that most of said champions are extremely mobile and hard to punish for this pushing either.)

junglerboy1617 votes

Fiora playing against or along side one, they will almost always feed horribly OR they somehow hard carry after a single early kill. I dislike it because the game feels like it is a toss up whether I will win or lose.

Thresh That hook is just so weird right now, the hitbox just messes with me.

Tryndamere He relies so much on luck, and if he gets lucky, he wins, and if I get lucky, he doesn't. Again, mostly annoying because it is so binary/such a toss up.

Zilean I hate this guy, especially if he drops his revive right after you've just dumped all your burst on somebody important, but right before they actually die.

Kitten of Evil16 votes

Leblanc Zed Nidalee

Notice a trend? Dash in **instagib ** dash out, spam /l as though it took skill

Of course I main immobile mages, so duh.

Brenticus124 votes

I feel like Zed isn't as bad as the other two.

Captain Aishi5 votes

and i feel like leblanc isn't as bad as the other two, different play experiences i guess ;)

warpenguin55513 votes

Annie.

insaiyanbacca13 votes

Riven

Rinky Dinky13 votes

Riven and Katarina.

Fuck up once and if they are good, you lose and their is NOTHING you can do about it. They Snowball FAR too hard.

Specifically riven, considering she has some of the most mobility in the game, no mana, and an AD SCALING SHIELD :')

Likewise, shut them down and they become useless. Problem is, the whole "Damn I gotta play perfect or my entire team will lose" Thing is very antifun.

RavenKouhai13 votes

Fizz always acts like they're a god for going invulnerable

Raid Boss Morde12 votes

The champions who annoy me the most are the ones with an absurd amount of mobility. Here are the ones I just hate seeing (not all of them have mobility, but most do):

Top: Riven Fiora Gnar Irelia Tryndamere Jungle: JarvanIV LeeSin Warwick Vi MonkeyKing Mid (I have a lot of these because I main mid): Annie Ahri Cassiopeia Heimerdinger Leblanc LuxZed Xerath Yasuo Katarina ADC: Caitlyn Graves Jinx Kalista Vayne Support: Leona Morgana Karma Zilean Blitzcrank

Arandallian88 votes

you just dont like playing league of legends do you?

Percseuss11 votes

Nasus I feel like its really hard to punish the player for even picking him now a days

Sir ArmaMalum9 votes

Rumble. I play melee tops all the time, and a good rumble will just screw me over. I just can't wrap my head around trading favorably with him with his low cooldown on his flamethrower and shield. I mean I'll eventually be able to out-tank his damage and beat him that way, but in the meantime it's a miserable experience. I don't rage though, as if it's happening I admit it's because the Rumble knows what he's doing. Doesn't make me like it though :P

Keevalroy9 votes

Yasuo, Kalista, and Shaco . Honorable mention:Zed

I don't think I've ever been so angry playing a game before. From the four listed, every last one of them carries a fanbase as toxic and revolting as the champion. If you main or defend these champions, there's a special place in Hell waiting for you.

Hasslevania4 votes

I logged in just to up vote this singular comment.

BeatzBoyFTW9 votes

At top lane:

Riven All you do is spam keys, so don't talk to me about "It takes skills u noob"

Lissandra Just another LCS-obedient dog, and to think he is better against me Darius cz range......

Heimerdinger Dude, wth you doing here? Suck at mid lane much?

A Superb Villain8 votes

Katarina

Especially when none of the other lanes pay attention to my pings.

Baron of Bread7 votes

Morgana Not like she is OP or terrible, but I still don't understand her Q's hit box. I think I have dodged it, and then it hits me unless I walked a mile away. So annoying...

Also her shield but mostly that Q.

Meep Man6 votes

Shaco

Thefriendlyorc6 votes

Riven for sure when I'm up top, vi in the jungle, nidalee anywhere.

A Miss Fortune6 votes

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Slamurai Jack5 votes

Nasus , because you only have so much time before you can't keep him down anymore, facing him makes you a gank magnet, and if he ends up winning his team the game, your team will always blame you.

Only Play Darius4 votes

I like to call my little doge "The Ticking Timebomb".

I play him alot, his entire playstyle can be summed up as "Lose Lane, Win Game"

The reason you are getting ganked is because most good Nasus players will let you shove lane under their tower, it's one of the few places where he can get guaranteed stacks, and then since you are pushed so far he can pick up an easy kill when his jungler comes to gank, especially since his wither pretty much guarantees your death. Next time, try freezing lane in the middle and then aggressively zoning him away from farm.

Konidias5 votes

Katarina - As others have said, she can lose lane and be incredibly behind, then get a triple kill and become unstoppable

Annie - Infinite zoning because of her passive stun. Not to mention she is ridiculous with her flash stun + AOE burst that can wipe out 2-5 players. Forces people to get Zhonyas or Banshees, screwing their potential damage builds

Fiora - Gets one kill and snowballs so hard. Her ultimate is one of the stupidest no skill ults in the game. You literally just right click and press R and you deal massive damage and are untargetable forever.

Irelia - Can be super tanky and then deal massive amounts of damage. Ult that seems to never end and can't seem to dodge it

Nasus - No point trying to kill him because he has tanky sustain for days... Literally all you get to do when you lane against him is deny him farm for 20 minutes. Most BORING matchup ever and basically takes you out of the game and makes the game 4v4 since you can't roam and let Nasus farm... you are basically there babysitting him for 80% of the game.

I have others but those are definitely my top 5 most annoying. Others can at least be dealt with or aren't stupidly broken.

4nth0l0gy4 votes

Caitlyn. Especially if she's laning with like, a Morg/Janna. I'm a jungle main and it's just a hopeless gank.

Star PlatinumELO

RekSai This is the only champ that ever bothers me on a mental level; you get resource-less abilities, cc, a high ap scaling nid spear-like projectile (like old Nidalee came back from the grave with that one), and a boatload of true damage if maxed out on fury... just a bit of everything on her annoys me.

KaisadiIIa4 votes

a high ap scaling nid spear-like projectile (like old Nidalee came back from the grave with that one)

wut? His Q has 0.6 AP iirc, nothing comparable to the 1.55 AP scaling on Nida's old spear. And don't forget that Rek'Sai builds AD.

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