The reason why Mundo is powerful despite Griveous Wounds

YumaS2Astral··15 votes·1,260 views

It doesn't matter if item 3123 exists if nobody buys it.

Also, tanks are better than ever, because people actually think that item 3153 sucks and they try to build all crit. Also, armor penetration has been nerfed.

However, people didn't realized yet how tanks are powerful. Except Mundo.

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Spoofghoul3 votes

To deal with DrMundo you need both item 3033 & item 3153

Which is not really optimal for dealing with everyone else.

Since the grievous wounds doesn't really benefit you for other targets, the armorpen is pretty useless vs other squishies and the %hp dmg which used to be strong vs everyone is now actually balanced to be most usefull vs hp stackers.

Since DrMundo does both stack hp and use a ton of regen neither of those items alone will suffice to shred him. Meanwhile cc is also less effective and and he does a good deal of damage. The trade off is that he does not really have any engage or disruption power.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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To deal with DrMundo you need both item 3033 & item 3153

Which is not really optimal for dealing with everyone else.

Since the grievous wounds doesn't really benefit you for other targets, the armorpen is pretty useless vs other squishies and the %hp dmg which used to be strong vs everyone is now actually balanced to be most usefull vs hp stackers.

Since DrMundo does both stack hp and use a ton of regen neither of those items alone will suffice to shred him. Meanwhile cc is also less effective and and he does a good deal of damage. The trade off is that he does not really have any engage or disruption power.

then just make a deal, if you are a tank, and you have an ADC with those items, just focus mundo. Their ADC will focus you and won't have armor pene/BRK to kill you, your ADC will be able to kill mundo.

If their ADC tries to klil YOUR ADC, then turn up on him since he will be in range to be killed

Kitten of Evil3 votes

"Mundo is powerful"

Man, back in S3 and S4, I never thought I would hear those words.

YumaS2Astral3 votes

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"Mundo is powerful"

Man, back in S3 and S4, I never thought I would hear those words.

Mundo actually used to be a very powerful choice in the early S4, and that was before the buff that gave him a damage boost on his E based on his HP.

I remember how the meta was dominated by Mundo, Shyvana, Renekton, and Trundle (which was only really used as a counterpick to them).

Toastey2 votes

BotRK got a stat reduction, a total price increase, and a substantial price increase on the core component in Bilgewater Cutlass. Literally took the full-face whopper of nerfs.

Grievous Wounds is also garbage. Went from 50% on all healing to 40% on self-healing only.

YumaS2Astral5 votes

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BotRK got a stat reduction, a total price increase, and a substantial price increase on the core component in Bilgewater Cutlass. Literally took the full-face whopper of nerfs.

Grievous Wounds is also garbage. Went from 50% on all healing to 40% on self-healing only.

BotRK got nerfed but is still necessary to deal with health stacking champions, such as tanks. It is just no longer an item that you should rush in every situation, but it is not a garbage item by any means.

Neither is Griveous Wounds items. They are still necessary to deal with sustain based champions.

Penns2 votes

But the reason no one buys it is because its shit, not because we are too bad to buy it.

And I mean, bork got its cost increased + its %dmg lowered quite hard. So.. u know.

Facy2 votes

Its more like people doesnt realize that ADCs are still freaking weak and die in less then a second like they did before while doing even less dmg now with all the item nerfs in AD and aspd. The only winners of the new patch are fighters. Another season where ADCs will be the least played role that has no impact on the game until the late game, which doesnt exist anymore.

RisenDarkKnight2 votes

Yeah everyone keeps saying that "oh look grievous wounds isn't hurting mundo," but in reality I haven't seen an adc build item 3123 in any of my games where the enemy team had a Mundo.

Also, I have to disagree with you about item 3153 . It's really not that strong of an item against tanks. You get more DPS with crit based builds, especially if you've already started building crit before you swith to BoRK. It's great as a one item powerspike agasint hp stackers, but if they have armor too, item 3033 and crit items are better statistically.

Sasogwa1 votes

Well, there's also the fact that his E buff made him strong in lane, while putting a large physical damage threat, and it's harder to get away with a bit of MR against mundo in lane.

Chaotic Reks1 votes

item 3036 hi how are ya

Dunkrius2g1 votes

Then you have to deal with his regen. 1 item simply doesn't counter a champion. You need a ton of them. Ill give you an example: item 3036 item 3033 item 3151 item 3116 item 3165 summoner 14. if you waste all your time just on him, then you will get rekt in the team fight by his team.

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

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Then you have to deal with his regen. 1 item simply doesn't counter a champion. You need a ton of them. Ill give you an example: item 3036 item 3033 item 3151 item 3116 item 3165 summoner 14. if you waste all your time just on him, then you will get rekt in the team fight by his team.

nop, not if their ADC doesn't have armor pene/% hp damage, you will be able to tank more than mundo

kile1471 votes

I feel like they should make a combo item for executioner and giant slayer. Decent AD, no armpen. You could either slap both passives onto the item or find an interesting way to combine the passives into one. Either way would be a good counter, alongside BotRK, to health stacking healers.

Specter0271 votes

Malphy and Rammus are gods m8.

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