When Will Tryndamere, Master Yi, and Lee Sin Be Updated?

Best Ekko NA··6 votes·1,010 views

The vast majority of "point and click" champions have already been weeded through.. aka Fiora, Fizz, Katarina, Ryze, Sion, Warwick, etc. Meanwhile the last time Master Yi saw significant changes was 4 years ago, for Tryndamere even longer.. close to 6 years now, while Lee Sin has never had any type of rework or update since the game was released. I'm pretty convinced that these champions really should be higher up on the priority than they are for being updated. Both Master Yi and Tryndamere suffer from the "pre-rework Fiora syndrome" where they either snowball hard or they are completely useless.

Per modernization, Tryndamere's ultimate is a joke at best. The longest crowd control effect in the game is 2 seconds and it takes an entire team's crowd control to deal with one single champion when he's fed. Meanwhile when most Tryndamere players aren't fed, they simply split push the entire time and use their ultimate so they can run away scot-free from any danger. Since it's impossible for any one single champion to lock down such a mobile champion as Tryndamere for an entire 6 seconds, he gets away every single time.

Why are these 3 champions being completely ignored for such long periods of time?

I'd really like to see some serious changes in all 3 of their kits similar to what happened with Warwick.

4 Comments

Nameless Voice2 votes

I actually think Tryndamere should be one of the highest-priority reworks (by Riot's own criteria) and am amazed that he's never even mentioned.

He basically has all of the problems that they rework champions for:

  • Gameplay does not match thematic (the barbarian hero who kills defenceless minions and runs away if anyone goes near him)
  • Binary matchups (either wrecks or is useless depending on champion picks)
  • Uninteractive gameplay (tends to just splitpush and run away)
  • Kit based on RNG (free crit chance)
  • Low skill expression (he does require positioning, but his actual kit has nothing complicated and he's fairly hard to punish for his mistakes due to high move speed, escapes, ultimate.)
  • Counterplay issues (see binary matchups, above. Either the enemy team has enough CC to keep him locked up and he is useless, or they have limited counterplay since they can't actually fight back due to reduced AD and him being immortal, and can't really run away due to his high movement speed and strong slow.)
  • Old, outdated model and very few voice lines
BattleMan691 votes

Just pointing out there's a few cc effects that last longer than 2 seconds. Off the top of my head, ashe tk and Morgana all have a cc effect lasting at least 3 seconds, not including something like a nasustainable wither that lasts even longer.

420 grams1 votes

I think tryndamere is fine but yi has been hurting since devourer got removed

StealWolverine1 votes

Fiddlesticks Ashe Morgana Veigar Chogath Galio Zilean Anivia Nasus Tryndamere Malphite Malzahar Nunu Urgot Rammus Ryze Lissandra Janna Swain Teemo Trundle

all have cc greater than 2 seconds in length. Those are just of the top of my head. And thats not even counting champs like Singed with item 3116

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