"KYS" And Similar Remarks NEED To Be Picked Up By The System Better.

Best Ekko NA·Aug 8, 2016·101 votes·8,228 views

I think the system really needs to crack down harder on this, surprisingly I am getting these comments consistently every few games. Players try to hide what they are saying and apparently whatever is being used must not pick up on it. Things like "kys", "go commit", "drink bleach", these are things that people are telling me pretty much every other game on my Silver account. I report them however I feel like more than likely the scanner isn't catching these things that people are saying.

I understand some people "reform" but I'm a firm believer that there should be absolutely NO chat restriction for players who tell someone to kill themselves, or even abbreviate, or reference it. The instant the system sees it, these players should get hit with their two week ban because it's not something that myself, or probably anyone likes seeing and I am seeing it so often that it's making me cringe. My very last two games I've had a player make a remark telling me that I should kill myself. The remark wasn't outright but the meaning is still there. I can handle some negativity every so often but seriously, I am seeing these abbreviated remarks / comments way too regularly. It means the same thing, and it should merit the same exact weight and punishment.

148 Comments

DunkinNoobsAug 8, 201635 votes

"You just ran in 1v5 and killed yourself."

INSTANT BAN.

President Swa1nAug 8, 201620 votes

"There's no way you can outrun these guys, kill yourself"

DunkinNoobsAug 8, 20165 votes

Even better.

Best Ekko NAAug 8, 20165 votes

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"There's no way you can outrun these guys, kill yourself"

The odds of typing that in game is next to nothing lol

DraygenBiscuitAug 9, 20163 votes

I typed it once but by the time I finished typing it they were already dead. lol

garren9Aug 9, 20163 votes

You gonna have to kill yourself to get that vayne at this point aatrox.

ElikainAug 9, 20164 votes

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Sudoku_17d_animation.gif

#1. "Commit sudoku"

#2. Get tyler1'd. #3. ??? ######4. Profit?

PayaThePapayaAug 8, 201631 votes

The year is 2017. The system now automatically punishes anyone who says kys. Some poor sap tries to type keys and forgets the e and is suspended on the spot D:

Amasa DelanoAug 9, 20162 votes

It should at least automatically report the person and/or flag the chat for review.

dominusxAug 8, 201617 votes

How do you drink an anime kappa

redfeenixAug 8, 20162 votes

That shits done eh. Got anything else I could drink ?

UnderscorBunniesAug 9, 20162 votes

try naruto

NetherlifeAug 8, 201616 votes

Words like commit and suicide shouldn't be picked up. If you think about it can you picture someone saying this, "If we go in we need to commit, if not it's just suicide."? I can because I've said that before. I use the word commit frequently, as well as suicide. I'd hate to be chat restricted by communicating with my team.

NetherlifeAug 8, 201610 votes

Also you have to take into account, that kys isn't always meant to be serious. Sure it's a joke in poor taste, but that's the internet. We can't really ban people for making stupid jokes like, "You know what's so great about twenty two year olds? There's twenty of them." Which I have heard at least twice in game. Sure it cringey and horrible, but at the end of the day it IS just a joke. Even if it's, again, a stupid and/or horrible one.

DarkSunSovereignAug 8, 20166 votes

I don't see what's so wrong with that joke lol

KingnewgameplusAug 8, 20165 votes

So remember that kid that went to jail because he jokingly said he would shoot up a school? The internet can and will arrest you for making stupid jokes.

MasochistAug 8, 20165 votes

The day the "internet" arrests someone for saying "kys" is the day we're all a little less free.

Troll for TrumpAug 8, 20162 votes

If "kys" isn't punishable, then no one should be punished for toxicity.

MasochistAug 9, 20164 votes

I think it depends on the context, and the amount of times someone says it.

But then again, I'm a reasonable human being with the capability to mute people.

Meh, whatever works.

marío xdAug 8, 20164 votes

Dude, it's 2016, you can't say anything because some poor maggot will be offended. This applies too seriously in League. Riot wants League to be super sportsman-like, so they punish every single little verbal thing that possibly offended someone ON THE BLOODY INTERNET!! But guy having 20 games in row, where he was diving towers for 20 minutes or the botters are totally OK...

Gary B EnkelisAug 11, 20162 votes

When did you start taking it as a joke and why do you expect someone who isn't part of your in-crowd to know what is a joke to you? Just be safe and respectful and lay off the suicide comments or keep them to your friends and not strangers?

Jeanne fan clubAug 8, 201610 votes

The year is 2016 Taric "think you can help me ward? I'm the only one who is warding" Yasuo triggered Taric was permabanned for saying something that someone else didn't like

extreme example I know, but I think that it illustrates the point that I'm trying to make. restricting any speech is bad. Free speech allows people to filter out ideas that they do not want to hear, that's why a majority of the population has a negative view towards racists.

It obviously isn't polite to take anger and frustration out on other people through a chat window. What people need to realize is that there is a MUTE BUTTON THERE FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE. I understand that you may feel bad about being told to kys, but you need to understand that they are just words. If you can't handle being told to kys over the internet, then I truly fear for you in the real world.

Just remember, words can't hurt you unless you let them, and in a game with a mute button it is all too easy to not let them hurt you. The internet is turning into a hugbox because overly sensitive people cant handle what is being said in the real world. Attributing your insecurity to a societal problem only shows that you are the one who has a problem. Offense is subjective, and there is always someone who will be offended by one word or another, regardless of context.

The solution to the problem is to mute, or just stop taking people seriously when they say that kind of stuff. The solution is defiantly not to ban people for what they type in chat. A system like that is totalitarian, and a totalitarian chat system will prevent people with different opinions from being able to play the game.

Gary B EnkelisAug 11, 20161 votes

Extreme example that is also not realistic as far as I know.

This is a game, though. Why should I have to have thick skin? What if someone was telling people to kill themselves at Disneyland or a restaurant? You think they'd be escorted somewhere or what?

And people can have different opinions but don't we have to agree to some rules to even play this game? Like here? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#code-conduct

"5.1. Can I troll, flame, threaten or harass people while using the Riot Services? (No. If you do, you might get banned.)"

Jeanne fan clubAug 11, 20161 votes

K, we ban KYS then whats next? Where do we draw the line at what words are acceptable and what words are bannable? I don't know if you see whats going on in the real world, but people are slowly starting to lose their right of free speech because it comes at the expenses of others feelings. Ok, we make it so if you say kys you get banned, whats next? the word stupid? Things like this constantly move the line of what is acceptable and what isn't. Everyone has a different opinion on what words should be bannable and what words shouldn't be bannable. I for one don't care what people say to me, I've had games where I've been harassed the whole game but I really just don't care about what they are saying. Sometimes I mute people because their mindless ranting gets in the way of mia's and such but other than that I really just don't see the point in getting yourself all worked up because of what someone said about you over the internet. Its not hard to have thick skin, just stop caring what complete strangers over the internet say about you, its really not that hard. The world isn't a giant safe space, you WILL meet these kinds of people.

You SHOULD need to have thick skin. What on earth will you do when someone says something you don't like? You cannot just live your life without getting harassed or offended. That's not how the world works. Harassment is worse in the real world because that person is right there in your face. You can't just get someone to ban him right there on the spot. I think it would be very beneficial for you to learn how to completely disregard the rude things people say.

Why do you take these people seriously? They are obviously trolls. Taking them seriously is what they want you to do, they want you to get mad, or they are just trying to vent because they are annoyed at your performance. Either way, stop caring about what they have to say.

Sure there are rules about what is acceptable and what isn't. Its up to the players to decide if something is report worthy or not. Its better if its up to the players because then its up to majority rule to decide if the flamer is worthy of a ban or not. Also, if one person had all the power of getting someone banned singlehandedly then that system would be exploited to a point where people would be too afraid to talk to each other. I know the OP wanted to implement a system that would throw out instant bans for using the acronym kys. Its such a bad idea on so many levels. People as a whole just need to understand that feelings are absolutely worthless and that rules should NOT be govern by emotion. It creates a subjective rulebook that people may not find acceptable. That's why the company has a bit of a vague rule when it comes to harassment.

iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other users in the Game;

It doesn't clarify what it means by harassment. People have different opinions on what harassment is to them. For one person harassment is being told to kill themselves, but for another person harassment is being told that they need to build and play differently because they are doing bad in game. Some people even view spam pinging as harassment. That's why the game uses a report system that goes off of the number of reports. If the majority of players in the game view the individuals conduct as harassment, then that player will get a ban. There is no reason to implement an automated system that will not go off of what the majority of players want.

Listen, I don't think that any of this is GOOD behavior. I don't support flamers or trolls, but I don't see how taking away any words regardless of their meaning will help the state of this game, or improve the community. The community will always have these kinds of people in them, policing words like what the op is suggesting will just make them use other words.

Its easier for everyone if people would just stop caring what complete strangers who they will never meet have to say about them in an online video game

Best Ekko NAAug 12, 20161 votes

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K, we ban KYS then whats next? Where do we draw the line at what words are acceptable and what words are bannable? I don't know if you see whats going on in the real world, but people are slowly starting to lose their right of free speech because it comes at the expenses of others feelings. Ok, we make it so if you say kys you get banned, whats next? the word stupid? Things like this constantly move the line of what is acceptable and what isn't. Everyone has a different opinion on what words should be bannable and what words shouldn't be bannable. I for one don't care what people say to me, I've had games where I've been harassed the whole game but I really just don't care about what they are saying. Sometimes I mute people because their mindless ranting gets in the way of mia's and such but other than that I really just don't see the point in getting yourself all worked up because of what someone said about you over the internet. Its not hard to have thick skin, just stop caring what complete strangers over the internet say about you, its really not that hard. The world isn't a giant safe space, you WILL meet these kinds of people.

You SHOULD need to have thick skin. What on earth will you do when someone says something you don't like? You cannot just live your life without getting harassed or offended. That's not how the world works. Harassment is worse in the real world because that person is right there in your face. You can't just get someone to ban him right there on the spot. I think it would be very beneficial for you to learn how to completely disregard the rude things people say.

Why do you take these people seriously? They are obviously trolls. Taking them seriously is what they want you to do, they want you to get mad, or they are just trying to vent because they are annoyed at your performance. Either way, stop caring about what they have to say.

Sure there are rules about what is acceptable and what isn't. Its up to the players to decide if something is report worthy or not. Its better if its up to the players because then its up to majority rule to decide if the flamer is worthy of a ban or not. Also, if one person had all the power of getting someone banned singlehandedly then that system would be exploited to a point where people would be too afraid to talk to each other. I know the OP wanted to implement a system that would throw out instant bans for using the acronym kys. Its such a bad idea on so many levels. People as a whole just need to understand that feelings are absolutely worthless and that rules should NOT be govern by emotion. It creates a subjective rulebook that people may not find acceptable. That's why the company has a bit of a vague rule when it comes to harassment.

iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other users in the Game;

It doesn't clarify what it means by harassment. People have different opinions on what harassment is to them. For one person harassment is being told to kill themselves, but for another person harassment is being told that they need to build and play differently because they are doing bad in game. Some people even view spam pinging as harassment. That's why the game uses a report system that goes off of the number of reports. If the majority of players in the game view the individuals conduct as harassment, then that player will get a ban. There is no reason to implement an automated system that will not go off of what the majority of players want.

Listen, I don't think that any of this is GOOD behavior. I don't support flamers or trolls, but I don't see how taking away any words regardless of their meaning will help the state of this game, or improve the community. The community will always have these kinds of people in them, policing words like what the op is suggesting will just make them use other words.

Its easier for everyone if people would just stop caring what complete strangers who they will never meet have to say about them in an online video game

In the United States and many other places cyber-bullying is considered a form of "harassment" and is actually illegal. There is a REAL reason why rules like this exist inside the terms of service and WHY it's enforced (by some extent). While difficult, theoretically it could be possible to hold a lawsuit against another individual who is harassing you on League of Legends assuming that you were capable of finding out who exactly they were. It's likely you'd never be able to find such information because Riot would never give you the means to acquire it, however the medium for the harassment could also be "liable" to some extent if no action was taken against the opposing party which is hence where the punishment system comes into play.

Basically tl;dr, the system isn't in place because of what "the majority" of players want. When another player tells you to go kill yourself, that is no longer trolling.. it's almost the same as telling another player that you will kill them, or any other type of threat aka 'cyber bullying'. Cyber-Bullying is considered harassment in some countries and is punishable by law. The system in place protects Riot as a company, not just other players.

Jeanne fan clubAug 12, 20161 votes

I think people on the internet are too sensitive. This game has a mute button, you don't need to hear any of the bad stuff people have to say. There is a big difference between harassment in IRL and harassment online. People need to grow up and understand that there are people like that out there who will tell people to kill themselves. There is no need to implement a system that throws out instant bans for typing 3 letters. THEY ARE JUST WORDS.

I'm not sure if you are new to the internet or what but this stuff has been around since the internet has stared. DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TOO SERIOUSLY ON THE INTERNET. that rule has been around almost since the internet started. I really am disappointed that people are so thin skinned they cannot take a simple insult on the internet anymore. Its not any better than in the real world. I'm not sure if my + younger generations are even fit for the internet anymore.

Best Ekko NAAug 12, 20161 votes

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I think people on the internet are too sensitive. This game has a mute button, you don't need to hear any of the bad stuff people have to say. There is a big difference between harassment in IRL and harassment online. People need to grow up and understand that there are people like that out there who will tell people to kill themselves. There is no need to implement a system that throws out instant bans for typing 3 letters. THEY ARE JUST WORDS.

I'm not sure if you are new to the internet or what but this stuff has been around since the internet has stared. DO NOT TAKE PEOPLE TOO SERIOUSLY ON THE INTERNET. that rule has been around almost since the internet started. I really am disappointed that people are so thin skinned they cannot take a simple insult on the internet anymore. Its not any better than in the real world. I'm not sure if my + younger generations are even fit for the internet anymore.

Telling another person to kill themselves is not an insult, an insult is like telling someone they look like a monkey or that they are stupid. It's a lot worse than an insult when you tell another person to kill themselves.

It doesn't matter where you do something.. I can shop online the same as I can shop at a store in real life. You are delusional in the sense that you seem to think that everyone you talk to on the internet isn't real and that it's some fantasy world where you can do anything with no restrictions but that's definitely NOT the case. Everything you do on the internet is traceable, everyone you are talking to is REAL. Whether or not you are capable of muting them doesn't matter, no person has the right to tell another person to kill themselves.

Not sure about where you live however if that person DID kill themselves and it was traced back to you via League of Legends by some chance, you could be charged with negligent homicide.

Jeanne fan clubAug 12, 20161 votes

taking people on the internet seriously... what has this generation come to? jesus christ, where did the parents go wrong? You don't seem to be able to find the difference between real life and the internet. Ok, ill make this very simple for you Life: serious place where things are taken seriously (most of the time) Internet: troll playground where you are NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE THINGS SERIOUSLY. Man, I feel like I'm supposed to walk on eggshells 24/7 just in case I might hurt somebody's fragile feelings.

what do I have to do to get it through to you?

DON'T TAKE ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, you really think that I don't know I'm talking to real people? Man, I don't know what kind of mental utopia you are living in, but in the real world + internet, people flame each other, and its a normal thing. Most people don't get reported because NO ONE CARES. It seems only recently people have started to think that negative emotions and speech should be policed because it might offend some poor individual's feelings. Some people just need to chill ffs and take a joke, or at least not give af about what a complete stranger has to say.

If the simple phrase KYS drives someone to suicide, then they have more personal issues than some idiot stranger on the internet telling them to kill theirselves over something irrelevant and worthless like a video game. If you go your whole life getting offended at absolutely everything, then your life will be miserable, and you will constantly be blaming others for your own insecurities. It is in your best interest that you stop caring what people say over the internet.

ZuilAug 9, 20168 votes

How about we get a tribunal and we don't need to rely on an automated system.

SiNful JunglerAug 8, 20167 votes

goona love this new generation, here we have a serious world problem, while other countries suffer from minor probelms like hunger and terror ( alot of examples like 300 000 death in a civil war in 5 years, and nasty terrrorest attacks) here we have someone with a greater and more horrific problem that all the other problems pales infront of it, some one told him to kys, how can he live any more , what humanity had come to, what a new low , some one told another to kys in video game on the internet, the pain, suffering, agony, misery and tormet thats he brought to you, what a wretched world, hope that some day you get over this traumatic experience, and know you are not alone all the kids that are dying from hunger and bombs, the people how lost their future and loved ones share ur exact suffering.

doiminat0r3600Aug 8, 20169 votes

Comparing a complaint on the boards of a videogame to actual murder is a scumbag move.

Telling someone they shouldn't complain because someone has it worse is like saying you shouldn't be happy because someone has it better.

SiNful JunglerAug 8, 20162 votes

maybe it's not ir it's, maybe it's satire to show how meaningless his complain and problems, u have alot of option like mute them you knew it's a feature and it's there for a reason, instade he suggest to ban litters that really depend on the context to be even considered toxic like saying kys you cant recall when you are running in their jungle while they chase you and many other examples ,but no this op suggest to insta ban them i mean wtf grow a pair, i hate this meaningless complains, it's child like in so many ways and people need to grow up and relaize what happened alround them, and agian it's satire with a clear purpose and it should not be taken literally, and the system is doing what it should do, punishing the repeated toxicity.

and nobody saying you should not be happy if some one is not, but some times you do need to put things into prespective, while complaining about something that is so dull and inconsequential, and i understand how what i wrote may seems a scumbag move but maybe becasue i am a scumbag and pessimistic as well as cynical and all in all it's just a one man opinion.

doiminat0r3600Aug 8, 20164 votes

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Can you please make that readable??? I'm seriously having issues understanding with all the spelling mistakes and the fact it's all one mess of a sentence.

SiNful JunglerAug 8, 20166 votes

thank you i will save your picture, ya english is not my native language but to go as far as saying it's not readable is kinda a scumbag move XD, just kdding :D, but for real it's readable isnt it? and beside this is not an assay or a piece of journalism, it's just a comment on random post .

DemolisherAug 9, 20163 votes

I think the problem here isn't that this guy can't take a comment about going to kill himself... I think it is more a matter of what is fun?? do you enjoy it when random people tell you to go drink bleach or would you rather have a team that is working towards a common goal... most times these are your teamates telling you to go kill yourself and yes I can mute them, but that doesn't mean they are good for the league of legends community. Kapish? sure this isn't on the same level as world hunger but when your designing a video game like riot has they want people to follow a certain standard of behavior and if your not willing to follow that then they've told you the punishment of not following the summoners code is worthy of a ban on your account. This poster is trying to help with identifying problem areas and you just shot him down for no reason... why are you here if your just trolling?

UnderscorBunniesAug 9, 20166 votes

Just because there are other greater evils in the world doesn't mean that it's ok to be an ass.

DEKInwAug 9, 20166 votes

i want a gameshow where this guy gets put on cs:go at 3 am and see how long he can last the russians

JimmyyyAug 8, 20164 votes

So... I get how it's really vulgar and everything, and I don't know how old you guys are, but I think it's a difference in generations. The younger generation (teenagers now) have really tough skin when taking insults, because bullying was a thing that literally everybody experienced, and they are used to it, so they are used to saying the same things. It's normal in our conversations to joke about that, because we're really insensitive to it. Like... The older generations will make occasional jokes about like the holocaust or 9/11 or something and the person who makes the joke will be frowned upon, but the younger generation makes these jokes all the time, and it's really the norm to be extremely vulgar. I don't know why.

aLawfulFalafelAug 8, 20163 votes

except no

no generation is tougher than another when it comes to bullying

there will always be bullies, and there will always be people of varying degrees of sensitivity to said bullying

my friends little siblings are a perfect example in my life of how this is wrong, the 13 year old is the bully, the 10 year old is hyper-sensitive to bullies online and the 6 year old brushes off insults like hes seen em for 40 years and there isn't an insult that could hurt him

they all play online games and are only 7 years apart AND are from the same family with the same upbringing yet they react differently, and thats the point, everyone will react differently. your age, generation born and gender have nothing to do with it

you might say its no biggie today, then on tuesday your gran kills herself, then on thursday while trying to forget the pain by playing video games someone says "kys" and it triggers all the emotions your trying to escape... then what? then is it still no biggie? do you then think to yourself, oh im from "x" generation so its ok?

on top of all that lets not forget that things said online arent always taken as intended; when trying to tell someone something helpful they can get defensive and shut you out so why would it be ok to go as far as to tell someone anything along the lines of "kys"?

example of me trying to give somebody advice and they got overly defensive (im sure weve all seen this in league)

(in champ select)

other player : this is my first time malzahar

me : awesome, hes one of my fav champs, ill help when i can, give advice

other player : sweet dude thanks

(in game)

me : yo malzahar a rylais in your build would be really helpful bro :)

other player : im 8/2 and your 4/4 stfu

me : i didnt say anything about your skill level, just your build bro

some time goes by

me : malz?

me : malz? your losing that lead, you have no bonus HP, no rylais slow and no voidstaff

support : malz our jungler is talking to you

support : hes just trying to help dude

support to me : he muted you man, apparently your being toxic

END OF EXAMPLE

many people cant handle ADVICE given about how to build a champ when its their FIRST TIME playing that champion, weve all seen this, yet people think its ok to say things like "kys"

so tell me Jimyyy, how old is this malzahar? A - you dont know B - it doesnt matter C - it's impossible to tell someones age / gender / or current state of well-being by just being in a video game with them D - all of the above

Xenos11111Aug 8, 20164 votes

I can also give you an explanation of why trying to give advice can be more triggering than saying something mild like "kys" (and no, telling someone to kill themselves isn't mild, but the expression kys itself is so overused nobody should be taking it seriously at this point).

When you're giving advice to someone, it can often come off as being PATRONISING. And you know what the most triggering to a lot of people is? That's right. PATRONISATION.

As soon as they perceive what you say in a patronising tone, even if you are trying to be helpful it will probably insta-trigger them and they would rather mute you than get triggered any further. That doesn't mean they can't handle mildly offensive insults or jokes.

ChorosphereAug 9, 20162 votes

ah yes cause making some rando rage a bit is definitely on the same level as telling someone to kill themselves

someone who could already be suicidal

you could literally kill someone but hey at least your not being patronizing right? now THAT would just be over the top

Xenos11111Aug 9, 20162 votes

Yeah, because if I was suicidal then being told "kys" by some random stranger on the internet (in a context which is probably joking) would definitely be the tipping point...

If someone would actually try kill themselves over that, then guess what they probably would've tried to do it anyway.

ChorosphereAug 9, 20162 votes

"Yeah, because if I was suicidal" key phrase there

point is your not so you dont understand how little things build up over time how that one little "kys" could be the straw that breaks the camels back people who are suicidal dont what to be living the life that they are so they escape reality for a bit through reading, drugs, the internet etc

so they are playing league to have fun and to try and forget about reality for a bit and then you tell them to kill themselves

no matter how insignificant you think saying kys is you cant predict how depression will twist your mind and feelings and make it seem like there is no point to you existing, like you would be better off dead and everyone would be happier that way

so really which is more important you being able to tell a stranger over the internet to go kill themselves or you know A HUMAN BEING NOT DYING

get over yourself

Crawford881Aug 9, 20162 votes

The reason telling people to kill themselves is considered a pretty serious offense is that somebody might actually kill themselves, and then there would be news stories about how somebody was bullied to suicide in League of Legends. So online game companies have really serious policies about this stuff.

Other stuff that is really serious: Racism, homophobia, other religious or ethnic slurs, and threats of violence.

DububbyAug 9, 20161 votes

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I understand some people "reform" but I'm a firm believer that there should be absolutely NO chat restriction for players who tell someone to kill themselves

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Best Ekko NAAug 9, 20162 votes

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No chat restriction. Basically that is usually the first step towards correcting player actions. If you are telling someone to kill themselves you are beyond what a simple chat restriction is going to solve and need some more severe form of punishment instead.

MonkeyMadnessAug 9, 20161 votes

Ya as pissed off as I get when people spew shit like this, you cant instaban people for single toxic incidents. Maybe they are a really nice player and just have one moment where they slip up. They don't deserve a 14 day ban for a single slip up. Honestly, they don't even deserve a chat ban for this. Bans are reserved for consistent abuse, not the occasional bad day.

Having said this, intentional feeding and other forms of trolling in ranked games should be met with immediate and SEVERE punishment at the first provable incident, as these are a direct attempt to actually ruin the game, whereas verbal abuse is more or less just lashing out, and is not necessarily indicative of a player that is deliberately trying to lose the game.

Best Ekko NAAug 9, 20162 votes

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Ya as pissed off as I get when people spew shit like this, you cant instaban people for single toxic incidents. Maybe they are a really nice player and just have one moment where they slip up. They don't deserve a 14 day ban for a single slip up. Honestly, they don't even deserve a chat ban for this. Bans are reserved for consistent abuse, not the occasional bad day.

Having said this, intentional feeding and other forms of trolling in ranked games should be met with immediate and SEVERE punishment at the first provable incident, as these are a direct attempt to actually ruin the game, whereas verbal abuse is more or less just lashing out, and is not necessarily indicative of a player that is deliberately trying to lose the game.

The thing is, people who "slip up" aren't going to tell another person to go kill themselves. Let me tell you, I have days where I rage very badly and never in my history playing this game have I ever said that to another player. The people who are saying these kinds of things aren't having a bad game or even a bad day. This type of behavior is a lifestyle. It's no different than someone who is racist or using hate speech. When someone says something like that it's because they mean it and it doesn't have anything to do with them having a mood swing.

Also, my reason for stating that they should be banned the first time is because instant punishment is the fastest way to get something clear to a person. When someone tells another player "go kys I hate you" and then after the game they see that they were banned for two weeks, they are going to realize quickly that they fucked up and that there won't be any tolerance for them saying those things to other players. I can pretty much guarantee that a player in that circumstance would never say that to another player again. To me, that is what the game really needs. It needs instant punishment, preventing it from escalating to worse behavior.

MonkeyMadnessAug 12, 20161 votes

I am so interested by people like you who assume to understand, at an incredibly intimate level I might add, the emotions of other people based on what they type in an internet-based social setting. Are you an actual psychic? Fact here is: you have literally no idea if they "mean" it, and wtf are you even talking about when you say

This type of behavior is a lifestyle

? Again, you don't know these people. You can't; all you have to go on is a few typed messages the vast majority of which aren't even personal conversation.

And while I agree that using racial slurs and phrases like kys are bad and need to stop, you really shouldn't be instabanning players for using them once. Two week bans tend to cause more toxicity then they remove, because Riot is entirely enigmatic with the so-called "reform" process.