"Zhonya negates lethality"

Beatrice falls·Aug 10, 2018·3 votes·1,027 views

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Just leaving this here, without R, hit only a single Q :v)

8 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerAug 10, 20183 votes

And?

That doesn't make you immune to his damage.

Beatrice fallsAug 10, 20183 votes

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And?

That doesn't make you immune to his damage.

Then why is the argument "ZhOnYA HaRd cOunTeRS lEthAliTY" brought up all days if an assassin can kill an opponent with a single rotation without his ult ?

DuskDaUmbreonAug 10, 20183 votes

It doesn't "negate" it. What the fuck gave you that idea?

Zhonya's negates Zed by making his ult useless against you. It doesn't negate lethality entirely.

You want to negate lethality, go item 3110 . 45 armor isn't negating all of the lethality they have.

D357R0Y3RAug 10, 20182 votes

you took 1642 damage, death recap is just bullshit and doesn't show all the damage done

also you had true damage with your build as well so who cares

Beatrice fallsAug 10, 20181 votes

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you took 1672 damage, death recap is just bullshit and doesn't show all the damage done

also you had true damage with your build as well so who cares

item 3147 electrocute

KrullyAug 10, 20183 votes

and item 3095 looks like ya got '''outplayed'''

Colgate GatorAug 10, 20182 votes

"A single Q"

There's at least 3 sources of damage there, and it isn't able to fill up the 100%

ScyPhan790Aug 21, 20181 votes

Feelsbadman. Enemy assassin builds lethality so you build armor to counter so it doesn't hurt as much. Assassin counters you building armor by building %pen. Wait, so no matter what you build they'll deal large amounts of damage, hmm that seems like a great design for "counterplay". No but really, everything about assassins is pretty dumb. All assassins go with electrocute, all ad assassins build lethality, all ad assassins build %pen if opponent builds armor; seems pretty one sided.

Now granted, as Lux you do have your root to stop him from closing the gap, but likewise he has his shadow to dodge your root and close the gap very easily. Just feels pretty biased that ad assassins have 3 lethality options that have really good effects attached to them (especially Duskblade since it benefits a total of 7 champs who have some form of invis; though there are also 2 adcs I'm not counting them). It's like, "yeah it's a good idea to make an item that strictly benefits only these few champs and it's pretty much their core item for damage", not to mention their passives and abilities that already strengthen their burst potentials.

To me, lethality just doesn't make any sense. You see mages build flat magic pen and it does alright for damage along with their other items. But you see assassins building lethality as their core (and almost only) items, and they're doing so much damage in comparison. Not to mention all fully built lethality items have the same "unique" passive. So you have items with unique named passives/actives that can't stack, but unnamed unique passives are allowed to stack? What's the point in them being unique then? Either change them to just passives (that way stacking makes sense) or follow through on preventing unique passives from stacking and give each lethality passive a name.