State of toplane discussion with Wickd IreliaCarriesU Hashinshin and Ethug

Sasogwa··5 votes·489 views

Reddit link : https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7gvi0y/wickd_hashinshin_ireliacarriesu_ethug_discuss/?st=jaocb1ap&sh=34820fd1

Saw this 1h30 video (kinda long) but a lot of good points are made by high elo toplane mains: For what I remember,

  • Ranged tops and tanks are quite too strong and powercreeping between each other; cause tanks get good items to survive against ranged champions, and ranged champions damage are calculated to deal damage to tanks, yet bruisers are left out, and they get destroyed by both.
  • For adcs, one of the problems is the item cost but also the exp they gain was buffed and should be less high, they spike too early in the game. It's fine if they have a lot of gold, as long as they're down on levels and the fact exp is distributed in botlane really feels impactful.
  • There aren't really great items for bruisers. Their items are expensive and feel mostly like just stat boosts, while for other classes it impacts a lot their gameplay.
  • Bruisers barely have an identity or a moment where they're strong. They don't win lane, they get outscaled massively in teamfights by tanks.
  • Splitpush is kinda garbage right now (and many other points)

Great discussion tbh, even though we might know hashinshin for exxagerating always about things, he makes fair points too and wickd, ireliacarriesu and ethug do agree the state of top is concerning for bruisers. Wanted to share, good video to see (quite long I'm sad)

5 Comments

Ralanr1 votes

Honestly listening to the item part was like listening to a foreign country with how they said Mage items were more unique.

Though they have a point. Fighter items don’t really seem to change playstyle.

SSShutTheDuckUp1 votes

They made indeed very good points on how trashy toplane feels ATM. I really like the part where ICU talks about the S6 Rageblade. It used to be a fantastic item on bruisers, and alternative to triforce rush, however now it is rarely picked by bruisers, save Yi, Aatrox and Jax, snd it is not amazing on them either. A lot else could be heard by these guys about the state of the toplane and it is pretty grim

Wînter Fox1 votes

Riven is just as screwed as Jax, Irelia, and any other melee top lane. She's sitting at 48% win rate and loses horribly against ranged champs and tanks. Idk why she gets so such shit

Kyunsei1 votes

Patch 7.24 B will be their redemption, or at least I hope so. Just finished watching (listening?) the whole video and it's great to share it here.

All hope up for 14th December (air launch date of patch 7.24 B)

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Eh.

Making any point about ADCs in this discussion is just dumb, if ADCs spiking to early affected bruisers negatively, jungle bruisers would be affected too - and they are fucking dominating over jungle right now.

Splitpush being weaker is the only good point they made.

But the real reason for the state of the toplane bruisers is that they are all super-dated and more point-and-clicky than ADCs. Bruisers top are statballs and nothing else, and stats got lower overall with runes reforged.

All that is needed is for resistance slot in resolve to have melee bonus. Really.

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