Yuumi more like Yuusless xd

Shiroyashayami··10 votes·3,564 views

29% winrate op.gg 31% winrate leagueofgraphs.com

[sg-kiko]

Wtf is going on with Riot. Are they scared of something? This is a support champion. She should be released a little bit too op, because support is a hard role. Then nerfed. They did the opposite of that xd Really can't understand logic behind it.

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BoRnToKiLL6664 votes

they gave her a big buff, maybe she will get better, everytime there is a yumi people just stop trying lol

[sg-miss-fortune]

Shiroyashayami5 votes

This big buff is big, but pretty much useless for her. She needs to be more of a champion than she is an equipment xd

Souji2 votes

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they gave her a big buff, maybe she will get better, everytime there is a yumi people just stop trying lol

[sg-miss-fortune]

This. People instantly give up and automatically flame the Yuumi player if they lose. She's actually pretty good late game if you get there. Especially if you have other CC to follow up on

NaughtyWord3 votes

I am not playing this game until Yuumi is either buffed or the newness wears off. I cringe out of my skeleton every time my support wants to play her.

Awful champ, just awful awful. I don't even know where to begin.

When she is connected to you, the enemy bot lane spends ALL their poke on the ADC alone. It's like 2v1 constantly except you get healed every now-and-again.

It's terrible.

BoRnToKiLL6663 votes

BUT, what if you wanted to grief, wouldn't the best way to grief is afking sitting inside them?

[sg-ezreal]

NaughtyWord2 votes

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BUT, what if you wanted to grief, wouldn't the best way to grief is afking sitting inside them?

[sg-ezreal]

Jokes on you, Yuumi is a troll pick as it stands right now.

I'd rather have anyone else as a support. I do mean anyone.

Yuumi or Katarina ? Kat please. Yuumi or Nasus ? Nasus Please

Anyone.

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

adelaide skyheart's smite singed?

NaughtyWord1 votes

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adelaide skyheart's smite singed?

Yup.

I'll take Smite Katarina with Lethal Tempo building full AD as a support over Yuumi.

At least that Katarina would give my opponents someone else to shoot at other than me. I can't even say the same for Yuumi.

Koiyaki2 votes

i mean...i'd rather have champs released underpowered then slowly buffed. But in all honesty, people will complain if a champ is too strong or to weak on release...its been 2 days. People need to chill for just a tiny bit...

Saezio2 votes

She has the worts winrate in league for release. And that's like after 80-100 champ releases.

Koiyaki2 votes

...it hasnt even been a week, not to mention most people playing her dont even play support. that and some derps are taking her mid or jungle so yea, her winrate was destined to be garbo

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

I think the problem with a weak release is that it's hard to gain data on how good they actually are after people have gained experience and after buffs because fewer people are playing the champ and the perception of weakness can cause other team members to play worse because they think they will lose.

It's easier to tell when an op champ that lots of people play has finally been balanced out than it is to tell a weak champ that few people play has become strong. This is especially true of support champs.

Koiyaki1 votes

I like the way you think, and yea u basically hit the nail on the head.

that couple with the fact that since she is a supp, lot of people who did play dont play supp...so yea....kinda expected her wr to be low, not that low, but low nonetheles

Velasan2 votes

Yuumi is fine people just need to get used to her. She operates much in the same way that Sona or Nami would. Bigger problem is the bad attitude surrounding their release.

Dusanking123452 votes

Could Yuumi be the first champion that gets buffed after release rather than nerfed?

Koiyaki1 votes

Syndra, bard, sylas (he was actually pretty weak on release, only his heal was broken), kaisa.

And some more ive forgotten

Edit: Oh yea Azir too >.>

letsfeedtogether2 votes

they buffed her. wait a few days now.

LBmyBB2 votes

literally just came out

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

She got hotfix buffed but other than buffing the shield so you can actually poke trade none of the buffs actually fix Yuumi's problems

She needs some actual ratios or a Q that actually does damage or a better base heal. This champion can't just have subpar poke, subpar utility, and subpar healing and somehow work as a champion. Honestly the heal is the strongest skill given it has speed on it and scales on missing HP so I'd rather them buff damage some more somewhere so she can trade.

Pika Fox1 votes

Her Q does a lot of damage for its range and safety, more than most single abilities for supports. Its only issue is lengthy early CD.

TwitchInMyPants2 votes

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Her Q does a lot of damage for its range and safety, more than most single abilities for supports. Its only issue is lengthy early CD.

Lulu has 2 waves of 80 damage that can hit the same target and it slows by 80%(slowly decaying) for 2s at around 1000 range

Lux has an E that does 60 damage and sets up a passive proc that will deal about that amount with a big AoE slow at around 1100 range

Janna Q is actually AoE, goes 1700 range, knocks up and deals 60 damage. She also has her W which scales on speed and offers a longer more reliable 24% slow at 55 damage, albeit at 550 range. Yuumi's 60 maximum damage starts looking impressive here, but when you compare utility and reliability Janna is still winning here.

Karma has an 80 damage Q that slows for 1.5 seconds by 25% and can be mantra'd for an additional 25 or 75 damage at 1100 range

Yuumi Q is a max of 1150 range and its range is tied to the adc. All of the comparable abilities here other than Janna W which is the biggest outlier are AoE and do more damage. Lulu and Karma have comparable levels of utility both offering speed boosts and very strong defense steroids. Even Janna who is pure enchanter is doing more damage on basic abilities.

Yuumi's safety is coming from W primarily. Sure 1100 range is fine, but when you consider the range isn't actually from the cast position but your active one your adc is likely going to move backwards after you cast it putting it in the 950-1100 range rather than the 1150 its set up as. And your reward for drifting around the minions with the slow projectile? 60 damage or less with a 1.25s slow.

I will say its a superior slow for value at 40%, so the hotfix is substantial since its not barely 5% more than these other slows... though when you consider Lulu is in the enchanter class and is doing a much superior slow at almost the same range with much superior damage AND has a better safety net with E + R than Yuumi's 2 E's, I have to question why Yuumi Q has such a pathetic reward for taking the risk of casting it from a distance. And if you don't acknowledge it at a risk, I will say as an adc if you're casting it from further than 500 range its very easy to see coming and I can step backwards or sit in the minions where the Q will be forced to drift into one due to its slow projectile speed and predictable curve. Casting it at closer range is the only way to reliably stick this thing and it's going to do much less damage for it, wheras none of the prior supports have this issue.

JackMcCarry1 votes

She should be released a little bit too op

Then when shit like pyke get's released people go apeshit when a champion is released on a the stronger/OP side.

NaughtyWord3 votes

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Then when shit like pyke get's released people go apeshit when a champion is released on a the stronger/OP side.

My biggest beef with Yuumi isn't that she's weak, it's that she's useless.

She excels at nothing other than being untargetable, which isn't all that much of a benefit in the Support Role because that means your ADC is going to be focused non-stop. She does nothing exceptionally well.

Healing? Sona Soraka Nami all do it better. CC? Morgana Lux Blitzcrank Pyke Leona

That is not to be all inclusive. Are all far superior. What does she bring to the table that is not far surpassed by other supports? Being untargetable?

Okay I guess. [slayer-jinx-wink]

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

After 3 troll games in blinds;

Yuumi Top 0 /6 and dc. Yuumi JG 1 /18 in 20 mins. Yuumi ADC with a duo Zach support, lane 2 / 21 by games end.

And about 15 dodges in between? I went to draft just to ban Yuumi! She was just ruining EVERYTHING! Even in the games pwople did play her at least one other schmuck would whine about not getting her all game. NEVER have I seen a release this toxic! ; Not even Bard!

Even in draft people explode when she's banned. I have had maybe 30 ques dodged since Yuumi released! And the most foul language ever tossed at me in game as well.

This community is getting worse and worse every day...

Mavëríck1 votes

The best way to buff Yuumi is to make her buffs that she gives better so it encourages hopping between your team and the buffs are actually helpful and worth a shit.

Meteora7071 votes

She should be released a little bit too op, because support is a hard role.

what the fuck mate lmao

Glaricion1 votes

Yuumi's been picking up steam.

The hotfix seemed to have gotten her from 30 to 36%, add in people learning not to take flash on her (60% pick rate in the sample size), she's well on her way from "release Syndra" tier to "rather underpowered" tier.

Done251 votes

Her max scale E needs to have its base heal doubled. The healing is just pathetic. It's weaker than Nidalee's heal ffs.

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