We should need to sacrifice something to build something else

Shiroyashayami·9/25/2019, 1:33:41 PM·22 votes·11,012 views

As for now we can get 45% cdr, have high damage and be tanky as hell. I would like the game to return to old system, when you had to actually build damage or cdr or penetration. Decide to be a little bit more tanky or to do a little bit more damage. I hate that every champion has everything, without sacrificing anything.

22 Comments

Xintium9/25/2019, 3:27:41 PM6 votes

I fully agree with that design principle and I think that it will move the game in a healthier direction. The same principle, in theory, should also be used when designing a champion kit: between (A, B, C), pick two. Unfortunately, newer champions basically get (A,B) for free, can do C with some effort and can also do that extra D. Old champions were a lot more "linear", which doesn't necessarily mean that they lacked any depth.

There was a user who compiled a document (and then posted it, here) showing which champion kit was actually overloaded (spoiler: Camille and Ekko are really overloaded). Newer champions, by far, outclassed older ones, except perhaps some reworks which are basically new champions, like Aatrox.

Unfortunately, I highly doubt Riot will follow this direction.

Lovelle9/25/2019, 6:20:11 PM6 votes

Ironically, tanks still have to make sacrifices for cdr, same with older melees like Trundle, Mundo, Volibear and Shyvana.

It's the newer and reworked champ designs that only need a main damage stat + cdr to function.

Eedat9/25/2019, 4:23:37 PM3 votes

They added a bunch of CDR in exchange for removing raw AD/AP so in theory a single combo would do less burst but it would be up more frequently to compensate. And in that manner it worked.

People like to say that this is "one shot meta" and it's unique to now but either they never played older seasons or they're piss drunk on nostalgia. I mean aside from some issues with duskblade that have been rectified. People think being killed over 3-4 or more seconds also count as "being one shotted" now which is laughable. Back in season 3 Leblanc would one shot you in under half a second while being silenced the whole time. Ahri would one shot you in the duration of her hard CC. Veigar would buy DFG and point and click DFG>Q>R with no need for W or E. Fizz didn't need his delayed ult to one shot. Don't even get me started on Kassawin. 98% ban rate lmao. Practically any AP champ with DFG could legitimately one shot you.

King Braum9/25/2019, 10:57:33 PM2 votes

Yeah ngl, It's always kinda Jarring to see you can get yourself to a 15 seconds cooldown on Lux's ult while still building full damage.

boricCentaur19/25/2019, 11:52:39 PM1 votes

I mean its only bruiser items and ap items that do that. Adc,assassins and tank items have trade offs. If you build duskblade you're building a item that will falls off and it gives you the worst stat in the game if you are behind.