Make energy/energy regen runes be % based

Photos of Ghosts··20 votes·810 views

Shen's rework gave him double the energy than other ninjas, while doubling his costs. What's the consequence of this?

The useless energy runes are now even more useless on Shen than on others. Make it a % of maximum energy, and buff them.

17 Comments

Quepha9 votes

Better idea: delete energy runes and all the other runes while you're at it.

Oleandervine7 votes

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Better idea: delete energy runes and all the other runes while you're at it.

I agree. They feel more vestigial than anything now. Masteries are where the real action is at.

Photos of Ghosts3 votes

Naaaaaaaahh not the others, I like to surprise people with a tanky setup on ranged champs. And dem hybrid pen marks <3

WhiperSnapers1 votes

I agree with the idea that the game would be better off without runes, but runes = money and businesses dont like to get rid of things that make them money. Which means that the runes aren't going anywhere for a very long time so we might as well try to balance them out a little

HandheldBrandon3 votes

Runes can only be bought with IP. The only money making that even comes anything near them is IP boosts to get more IP for runes.

WhiperSnapers1 votes

What exactly is your point? No one buys IP boosts because they like collecting IP. The boosts are just a conversion of money into IP which is then used to buy runes (or champions). My original point still remains, runes bring in money. money ---> IP boost ---> runes

HandheldBrandon2 votes

My point is that IP boosts are simply not even worth it.

I own all the champs and every rune and rune page i could ever need because i have been playing for a long time.

Its honestly better in the early stages to just play for fun and save all your IP towards a champion and if you are going to spend money you may as well just fork out the money for one and then continue saving that IP for something else you want.

I remember i used to spend maybe 10 bucks a month on league because i wanted to try a new champ and see if they were fun. I then used all my IP and dedicated it to runes and before i hit level 30 i had every single rune i could possibly need for my builds.

Ip boosts are legit a waste of money since for 5 more bucks you can most likely just buy the champ out right and then use IP for something else like runes.

Quepha1 votes

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I agree with the idea that the game would be better off without runes, but runes = money

No, runes = lost customers = less money. If they rolled the expected amount that players would spend on runes into champion purchases (I'd guess like 20% of their IP income corresponding to a 25% increase in champ prices) then players would be EXACTLY as incentivized to spend RP on champions BUT new players wouldn't have this huge barrier of entry that causes them to turn away from the game. Rune costs are front-loaded for players during the period where they are least invested in the game and more likely to switch to an alternative competitor that doesn't require this obnoxious grind.

WhiperSnapers1 votes

We are in agreement, the game would be better without the rune system and there would definetly be a higher "new player retention" rate.

runes = lost customers = less money

The company probably doesnt feel the same way. If they did they would have already gotten rid of the TIER 1 and 2 RUNES which are basically noob traps.

Quepha2 votes

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We are in agreement, the game would be better without the rune system and there would definetly be a higher "new player retention" rate.

The company probably doesnt feel the same way. If they did they would have already gotten rid of the TIER 1 and 2 RUNES which are basically noob traps.

If they really don't feel the same way it's because they haven't really thought about it. It's obvious that IP costs for runes are overall detrimental to the game from the perspective of a player or a businessman.

ZeeWolfZ2 votes

No. Absolutely Not. No Energy Please. I didn't realize it was hard to Play Zed-like champs. Have you tried Mana champs?

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Never played an energy champ. But I know that these runes were ridiculous already, now they're just saddening.

Grashnim1 votes

Poor Shen wants energy!

However, Zed spam is so cheap.

4th3t0s1 votes

Uhm, except Shen has a massive amount of energy return in his kit now, both on his q and e; can't say the same for the others.

Edit: Also, energy runes are shit anyway

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

I said that the runes are now even more shit, since their low effectiveness is now halved on 1/5th of the champion pool that can use them.

Not that Shen is underpowered.

TiniNinja1 votes

Hey! I'm a proud owner of the energy/scaling seals. Best 20k IP I've ever spent :)

ntbcool1 votes

The reason champions have energy is so they can't just get mana regen and spam their abilities, thats why energy runes are useless, and shouldnt even be in the game.

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