I actually miss the jungle meta of j4/lee/vi

freepointzs·May 24, 2015·5 votes·1,097 views

That's how bad the current environment is in jungle currently. I would take those three champions who I hate over the current meta. Rek sai does stupid amounts of damage for how much utility she has, gragas is nigh unkillable, sejuani wins teamfights with a single click, and nunu is the most frustrating champion to face as another jungler.

Don't get me wrong I love tank junglers being viable again. But champs like ammumu, zac, and volibear dont feel like bs to face. The top tiers do.

15 Comments

LuggMay 24, 20152 votes

J4, lee, and vi are still all good, they just aren't OP anymore. I agree that Rek, Gragas, and Sej all need major nerfing, they are totally broken right now.

Nameless VoiceMay 24, 20152 votes

I don't miss Lee Sin. I still hate every fibre of his horribly overloaded kit. At least now that he's not popular any more, I don't have to see that in every single game.

As for the others... I actually feel that the jungle is currently ten times more varied than it was before Cinderhulk. Sure, Sej is always banned, and I see Gragas and Rek'sai quite often, I also see lots of other junglers. In my last ten games at low Platinum, I saw: Fiddlesticks (x2), Hecarim, Lee Sin (x3), Nocturne, Evelynn, Pantheon, Rek'sai, Xin Zhao, Udyr, Shaco, J4, Elise, Rengar (x2), Nidalee, Vi.

That's almost two different junglers in every single game. Yes, it happens because Sej and Gragas are usually banned, but it's still far, far more diversity than I saw before Cinderhulk. Many of those champions don't even build Cinderhulk - they are just able to jungle again because they don't have to fear being completely pushed out of their jungle by Lee Sin.

khorneyMay 24, 20151 votes

So what's stopping you from playing them ?

Linna ExcelMay 24, 20151 votes

Lee is difficult to get to the point where you can play him well enough to justify picking him. He has a huge skill floor.

GodarenMay 24, 20152 votes

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Lee is difficult to get to the point where you can play him well enough to justify picking him. He has a huge skill floor.

Lee is still fun if you suck with him though LeeSin Yasuo players don't let anyone tell you you have to be good with your champ.

lB2kGRlc8yMay 24, 20151 votes

For real, most people bring their new champions to Dominion matches, which I actually enjoy and take seriously, but still at least they're trying something new. First time LBs are even acceptable, so long as they realize why she isn't healthy for the game and never play her again.

GodarenMay 24, 20151 votes

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For real, most people bring their new champions to Dominion matches, which I actually enjoy and take seriously, but still at least they're trying something new. First time LBs are even acceptable, so long as they realize why she isn't healthy for the game and never play her again. I hate leblanc she's toxic to lane against and just a problem champion.

freepointzsMay 24, 20151 votes

dignity, moral code, and a sense from right and wrong

Linna ExcelMay 24, 20151 votes

I don't miss Lee and J4. Vi, well I kind of like her. She's probably good against tank junglers if she goes LW (or BC) and Bork.

Arcane AzmadiMay 24, 20151 votes

I don't miss it. I mained Sejuani before it was cool (hell, I mained her before they even reworked her to make her good) and I prefer her being FotM over Lee Fucking Sin and J4 any day.

NemeBroMay 24, 20151 votes

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That's how bad the current environment is in jungle currently. I would take those three champions who I hate over the current meta. Rek sai does stupid amounts of damage for how much utility she has, gragas is nigh unkillable, sejuani wins teamfights with a single click, and nunu is the most frustrating champion to face as another jungler.

Don't get me wrong I love tank junglers being viable again. But champs like ammumu, zac, and volibear dont feel like bs to face. The top tiers do.

Amumu is just as strong as Sejuani is, to be honest.

GodarenMay 24, 20151 votes

I miss lee sin because he was fun and it was like having dynamite on your team. Either he would do great and carry or be ineffective and fall off but either way he is the funnist jungler to watch. Vi I hate cause her ult when she is fed is really stupid espicially if you play any immobile adc. That being sad they need to lower the health % on cinderhulk.