Cho'Gath and Singed are shining examples to not buff/nerf out-dated champions

Mannny··3 votes·403 views

They need reworks, don't try to buff/nerf them. They will be either too weak or too strong. Just keep them where they are and rework them. Note that a lot of times, Riot, you do full reworks including design to the point where it's basically a new champion release. In my honest opinion there are too many out-dated champions that are in need of reworks for you to do all of that extra stuff. More reworks, less buff/nerfs.

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Sp33d Zer02 votes

"They need reworks" Get mini reworks "No not like that!"

Mannny1 votes

Just because others say that doesnt mean I do.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

Except that Singed and Cho'gath didn't get a "buff", they got a minirework that is designed to make them feel better to play. They came out overtuned from it, but they got exactly what you asked for: More reworks.

Zane Zephyr1 votes

Buffing them is fine, but cho has been buffed repeatedly in a short span of time with almost zero nerfs and singed has also gotten some love taps too

They just overtuned the hell out of them and now we have to suffer the consequences

CaptainSeto1 votes

For 1, there is a lot of champions that they need to rework. Singed isn't one of them. He fills his niche of being a constant proxy/distraction extremely well, and while he'll never be in worlds, he's still a decent champion. His buff was just a little too strong. I don't see a way they could rework him, and have him still fit his role in the game. He's got a slow, that turns into a root on a flip, which is good for getting rid of someone who tried cutting him off, his poison helps discourage and slow chasers, and his Ult makes it easier for him to get away, if he ever is in dire need of it. His poison trail is also the key of his kit.

2, Cho'gath is eventually going to get a VGU. There is no doubt. But for right now, he was damn near unplayable in draft because he's an easy as fuck counter pick. His Q is the most telegraphed knockup in the game, and his silence is in an odd state. His ulti is perhaps the one thing on him that should never be changed completely, the change they did to it recently made it pretty good. But this buff actually allows him to be played in Draft. That's a good thing.

Big Lincoln1 votes

singed is fine now

cho literally just needs a slight numbers tweak to his E and he'd be fine. I would prefer he return to AP bruiser and lose the health-to-damage ratio on his ult, but it's really not that hard to balance him out now.

both the mini-reworks were great conceptually. the numbers were too high.

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