I hate laning against him recently. It's like I burst him and he just walks into a bush for a few seconds, comes out and has suddenly replenished 80 percent of the damage I did to him. Combined with pots he just gets all his hp back. I don't usually die to him unless his jungle comes but that heal just never lets me get close to finishing him.
Malix Farwin7 votesPyke is a bit of a wierd champion since its impossible for him to increase his max health through items i feel sometimes they do go a little overboard with compensating him on that especially since Assassins in general are not building HP items anyways.
The thigh guy3 votesBuT hE cAnT BuIlD Hp!!!! ~ every pyke player ever
But no for real. His healing is absolutely stupid. He is practically immune to poke.
SuicidePlank2 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:39:54.379+0000)
BuT hE cAnT BuIlD Hp!!!! ~ every pyke player ever
But no for real. His healing is absolutely stupid. He is practically immune to poke.
And also to slippery for All-Ins.
Saezio3 votesDo you lane at level 18? cause at level 1 its 30% heal and at 18 it's 81% So, you are full of crap
The Godkarther4 votesDo you lane at level 18? cause at level 1 its 30% heal and at 18 it's 81% So, you are full of crap
So why are you the only person to disagree? I think maybe you're the one who smells of BS here buddy. Did you forget it's AD scalings?
1 Inch and Proud2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Godkarther,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:54:17.905+0000)
So why are you the only person to disagree? I think maybe you're the one who smells of BS here buddy. Did you forget it's AD scalings?
nah i disagree too. he needs it. play him and force yourself to not heal in the bush.
The Godkarther1 votes[{quoted}](name=1 Inch and Proud,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T19:01:37.268+0000)
nah i disagree too. he needs it. play him and force yourself to not heal in the bush.
I'm mastery 5 on pyke because I used to main him, I know what an annoying champ he can be. Especially with his ultimate. Playing him as a support is so good just because poke is pretty much negligible.
Saezio2 votesYou are mastery 5 and you don't know how passive works. OK. Back to school boy
BTW mastery 5 with 16 games on the champ. :) nice
The Godkarther2 votesYou are mastery 5 and you don't know how passive works. OK. Back to school boy
BTW mastery 5 with 16 games on the champ. :) nice
I have a lot more than 16 games on pyke but sure buddy. Sorry I offended you because you're a rito fan boy, learn to get less triggered when you hear facts.
Saezio2 votesWOW you can't even admit you made a mistake.
You can't read the tooltip?
The Godkarther2 votesWOW you can't even admit you made a mistake.
You can't read the tooltip?
Uhh AD effects the capacity. What's your point?
Saezio1 votesNo it doesn't. It only means that if you don't have enough AD you may heal EVEN LESS than the % that's indicated on the skill.
And it is 81% of the damage you take from champions at level 18 ONLY IF it doesn't surpass the 80+800%AD threshold.
So your title is completely misleading, you don't see that? Especially when you are talking about him IN LANE.
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=1 Inch and Proud,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T19:01:37.268+0000)
nah i disagree too. he needs it. play him and force yourself to not heal in the bush.
You know. If it’s because he “needs it” I think thresh needs a heal to. Bexause let’s face it. Pyke is litteraly just a better thresh.
1 Inch and Proud1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-13T23:57:17.930+0000)
You know. If it’s because he “needs it” I think thresh needs a heal to. Bexause let’s face it. Pyke is litteraly just a better thresh.
false. . why would he need a regen when he can gets passive armor + builds able to go tank build. pyke purely is assassin. and thresh counters pyke.
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=1 Inch and Proud,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=00040000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-14T16:21:42.018+0000)
false. . why would he need a regen when he can gets passive armor + builds able to go tank build. pyke purely is assassin. and thresh counters pyke.
Because pyke is a fucking assassin who shouldn’t get handed free tank shit for no actual reason.
And no “hE cAnT bUiLd Hp!!!” Is not an actual reason. He’s an assassin. Assassins aren’t tanks.
Ali Bahba1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-13T23:57:17.930+0000)
You know. If it’s because he “needs it” I think thresh needs a heal to. Bexause let’s face it. Pyke is litteraly just a better thresh.
no they serve different roles.
The thigh guy1 votesno they serve different roles.
They serve the exact same role. Engage. :/
Ali Bahba1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=000400000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:18:50.704+0000)
They serve the exact same role. Engage. :/
thresh is built as a tank, pyke is built as an assassin. thresh stays close to his team and pyke roams. thresh can protect his adc, pyke cannot peel.
The thigh guy1 votesthresh is built as a tank, pyke is built as an assassin. thresh stays close to his team and pyke roams. thresh can protect his adc, pyke cannot peel.
Thresh roams as much as pyke does during the lane.
Also Pyke can peel. Very easily.
As for their build difference. I’d argue pyke is tankier than thresh with his grey health bs and one-hundred and thirtyfuckingfive base armor.
Saezio2 votesAD scaling is for CAP.
You heal up to 30% of the damage you take from champs and it is capped at 80+800%AD.
Can you read?
Yeah I am the only one that disagrees because you all are circlejerking. Gimme facts mate.
AND LEARN TO READ SKILLS AND PLAY CHAMPS BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN.
Ali Bahba1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Godkarther,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:54:17.905+0000)
So why are you the only person to disagree? I think maybe you're the one who smells of BS here buddy. Did you forget it's AD scalings?
look it up, also hes getting his healing nerfed anyway, why are you posting this?
Kanzler2 votesYeah, it's a bit excessive
Oleandervine2 votesI've been saying it's excessive since his launch. If they're going to keep the heal so high, the gray health needs to have a time limit to it.
Jimmy Rustles2 votesIt's like rengar but at least pyke has to leave
The Godkarther2 votes[{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-13T18:57:24.787+0000)
It's like rengar but at least pyke has to leave
Pyke's mobility just makes it all the more annoying to deal with.
AR URF1 votesIt needs to go on a much longer cooldown. The fact that he can just leave, wait for it to cooldown and comeback without his ADC suffering too much is just dumb.
5050BS1 votesWAY too OP
The Kombinator1 votesWhat he needs is cost increase to his pull. Just like all other champion with such ability. He has the power to nearly oneshot an enemy with something that cost so little. Make him PAY for missing.
Luigi Tortellini1 votesHe's the most lopsided risk vs reward champion ever created. He can make as many mistakes as he want and then use his stun (which for some reason the game counts as a flash and not a dash so he can go through things like veigar wall), swim away, and then be at full hp.
Meanwhile if a single member of your tea gets to 50% health he has a chance to get a pentakill with double the normal gold reward.
Plz buy more rp
Ali Bahba1 votes[{quoted}](name=Luigi Tortellini,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-06-14T18:59:44.456+0000)
He's the most lopsided risk vs reward champion ever created. He can make as many mistakes as he want and then use his stun (which for some reason the game counts as a flash and not a dash so he can go through things like veigar wall), swim away, and then be at full hp.
Meanwhile if a single member of your tea gets to 50% health he has a chance to get a pentakill with double the normal gold reward.
Plz buy more rp
no he can't go through veigars wall, he is not in an invulnerable state and can be interrupted.
rtbf2476264231 votesyeah its rediculous you cant punish him at all since he can just run away and w and heal back almost all damage
Politur grime1 votesHe has a too strong kit overall two dashes, hook, ms buff, invis, ally goldsharing, strong heal and a true dmg aoe execute with reset.
I mean every champ needs strong sides, but here we got almost no weaknesses.
And yes, a melee champ shouldn't be able to heal like 70% of the dmg taken just by leaving. It makes melee's weakness of being shortranged negligible for poke.
Ali Bahba1 votes[{quoted}](name=Politur grime,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zJpOo1BX,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:29:25.985+0000)
He has a too strong kit overall two dashes, hook, ms buff, invis, ally goldsharing, strong heal and a true dmg aoe execute with reset.
I mean every champ needs strong sides, but here we got almost no weaknesses.
And yes, a melee champ shouldn't be able to heal like 70% of the dmg taken just by leaving. It makes melee's weakness of being shortranged negligible for poke.
two dashes? if you're counting his blink thats his r?
Politur grime1 votestwo dashes? if you're counting his blink thats his r?
literally yes, mid range execute. It's somewhat dodgeable with the indicator in teamfights hard to dodge most of the times.
Kryptich1 votesHe's hard to kill in lane - so what - that's part of his identity. Don't poke him, poke the ADC. Plus - you don't have to kill him at all in lane to win. Come out of lane 0-0 and he's too gold starved to contribute much of value. Meanwhile if you're on a more traditional support you can pull much more weight than him in mid-late game team fights and push that advantage.
You can't look at just one aspect of the game and deem a character OP.
taleofsonata1 votesWell, he can't build health. Question answered, to make up for not being able to build health he needs to have some sort of hp regen.