Why does Kat have such low cooldowns?

The Godkarther··3 votes·2,241 views

I play very squishy champions so I hate the fact that EVERY time I walk back to lane she has Ulti up again and in a long fight might even use it twice, like for the amount of damage she does, why are her cooldowns so low?

Also I heard she gets CD resets?

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Super Galaxy3 votes

Every recent takedown (kill or assist) she gets resets her cooldowns by 10(?) 15 seconds. When she picks up a dagger, her Shunpo (blink + auto reset) gets its cooldown reduced by 10 seconds or so. Her ultimate is relatively low damage compared to the rest of her kit, and is mainly used to finish people off to enable the rest of her abilities.

The key to fighting Katarina in lane phase is paying attention to if she picks up her daggers after blinking to you, because if not, she's vulnerable.

It's also good to mention that her Shunpo can blink her to friendly or enemy minions, friendly or enemy champions, plants (blast cone, honeyfruit, scrying thing).

She's a very slippery champion, but at least she has relatively nonexistent lane priority as long as you know how to face her.

Super Galaxy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dark Står ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2srjvENV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-24T15:04:02.321+0000)

Every recent takedown (kill or assist) she gets resets her cooldowns by 10(?) 15 seconds. When she picks up a dagger, her Shunpo (blink + auto reset) gets its cooldown reduced by 10 seconds or so. Her ultimate is relatively low damage compared to the rest of her kit, and is mainly used to finish people off to enable the rest of her abilities.

The key to fighting Katarina in lane phase is paying attention to if she picks up her daggers after blinking to you, because if not, she's vulnerable.

It's also good to mention that her Shunpo can blink her to friendly or enemy minions, friendly or enemy champions, plants (blast cone, honeyfruit, scrying thing).

She's a very slippery champion, but at least she has relatively nonexistent lane priority as long as you know how to face her.

Kazekiba1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dark Står ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2srjvENV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-24T15:04:02.321+0000)

Every recent takedown (kill or assist) she gets resets her cooldowns by 10(?) 15 seconds. When she picks up a dagger, her Shunpo (blink + auto reset) gets its cooldown reduced by 10 seconds or so. Her ultimate is relatively low damage compared to the rest of her kit, and is mainly used to finish people off to enable the rest of her abilities.

The key to fighting Katarina in lane phase is paying attention to if she picks up her daggers after blinking to you, because if not, she's vulnerable.

It's also good to mention that her Shunpo can blink her to friendly or enemy minions, friendly or enemy champions, plants (blast cone, honeyfruit, scrying thing).

She's a very slippery champion, but at least she has relatively nonexistent lane priority as long as you know how to face her.

And she used to be able to jump to wards, but thankfully Riot realized wardhops are cancer and need to be systematically removed

Hammermancer3 votes

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And she used to be able to jump to wards, but thankfully Riot realized wardhops are cancer and need to be systematically removed

item 3070 LeeSin item 3070

riot: actually you can't have two tear items anymore

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Kazekiba1 votes

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item 3070 LeeSin item 3070

riot: actually you can't have two tear items anymore

LeeSin item 3110

He and Jax need reworks, and when they do get them they'll be taken out, guaranteed. They removed it from Kat, they refused it to Braum (albeit for different reasons) and it's never been so much as considered since as far as Riot's ever told us.

nooperton1 votes

Every kill she gets her CDs are lowered by 15seconds and every dagger she picks up she can basically dash 1 more time.

P4ppino1 votes

Yes, she has resets, otherwise she couldn't do what she's supposed to do, which is killing fools in an instant. She has insane mobility and damage, but no cc or shield or heal or anything.

Hot LeBlanc Yuri1 votes

Because without them shes a melee creep

Jeanne fan club1 votes

her cd's are like 17 seconds but her dagger resets most of her cooldowns or something like that, also kills reset cd and stuff so it seems like she has super low cd's but really its just her kit reseting them. So technically ur kind of right.

Greenette1 votes

Katarina is gated by mana, so she runs out of mana fast with low cool downs... wait

Katarina is gated by energy, so she has to use her spells properly... wait

Katarina has to stack fury/rage to be effective, so she has low cool downs... wait

But wait, isn't it Riot's own design philosophy that states champions with no resources are gated by long cool downs? I don't have any particular issues with Kata, just wanted to toss my 2 cents in.

Kazekiba1 votes

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Katarina is gated by mana, so she runs out of mana fast with low cool downs... wait

Katarina is gated by energy, so she has to use her spells properly... wait

Katarina has to stack fury/rage to be effective, so she has low cool downs... wait

But wait, isn't it Riot's own design philosophy that states champions with no resources are gated by long cool downs? I don't have any particular issues with Kata, just wanted to toss my 2 cents in.

E cooldown is ... Kind of long if she doesnt grab some form of a reset. W has a giant delay before it does anything, although its also her primary form of damage. Notably, she CANNOT use her W at range and thus it's very dangerous for her to use it offensively. Q might be too strong/hit too many targets for a no cost, low CD poke ability.

The biggest gate that katarina has to pass is the fact that she loses out on access to a lot of items that most mages use or wastes money getting it. of course this is bypassed by item 3146 being broken af (40 AP build path -> 80 AP completed? nice. 25 AD build path 40 AD complete? Fair.)

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