Being flamed by High Elo players because of rank.

The Godkarther·Jun 9, 2019·40 votes·14,155 views

I'm tired of this BS MMR in normals. Every single game now at least half of the players are gold and sometimes there's even plat or diamond players recently. (I'm Silver 4). Last game 4 people on the enemy team were gold and at the end of the game flamed me for being shit saying 'Git gud', 'You're shit', 'Uninstall'. Why tf should I have to deal with this shit? I'm Silver 4, put me in games with silvers or high bronze. I don't care if my queue time is 9 minutes instead of 4. What's the point of waiting 4 minutes to have an extremely un fun game with high elo team mates flaming me for being bad and enemies trash talking me. Then after the game I get laughed at for being silver 4? Why am i not allowed to just enjoy the game?

45 Comments

MyrmironJun 9, 201924 votes

I keep getting flamed for being Diamond in normals and get accused of having bought my account and that I was boosted. It's not "High Elo" players doing the flaming, it's assholes. :) (Also if you want matches with only players of only your rank, that's kind of what ranked solo/duo and ranked flex are for)

The GodkartherJun 10, 20196 votes

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I keep getting flamed for being Diamond in normals and get accused of having bought my account and that I was boosted. It's not "High Elo" players doing the flaming, it's assholes. :) (Also if you want matches with only players of only your rank, that's kind of what ranked solo/duo and ranked flex are for)

Ranked isn't for a fun, relaxing game. Ranked is for being competitive to boost your rank. I want to be able to practice champions with people my own rank in normals without plat players crushing me or flaming me.

Z3SleeperJun 10, 20195 votes

Once again, as he said it has nothing to do with higher ranked people. It's just assholes plain and simple.

If I ever lose lane to anyone below Grandmaster allies/enemies will call me boosted even if I'm first timing a champion. Similarly Challenger players will say the same exact thing.

Rank doesn't matter when it comes to flame. Assholes will flame regardless. Higher ranked? "Boosted". Lower ranked? "'X' rank trash". It doesn't change.

UvecJun 10, 20191 votes

Ironically the "high elo" which is supposed to present the role model for most competitive players consists majorly of assholes, which then translates to the lower brackets.

Sexy WinJun 10, 20191 votes

There's always the aram mode

You Are Cute XDJun 10, 20191 votes

Bro I get flamed for my rank in ARAM all the time. I haven't done my solo placements and I'm Bronze 3 in flex. So I get flamed by the higher elo people in ARAM. One of my recent games my opponents were all in Grandmaster and Challenger (It turned out it was CG's academy team).

Kai GuyJun 9, 20198 votes

They are just as stuck at their MMR as some one whos stuck in iorn or bronze is. Rather then get better the turn to trying to pub stomp lower skill players to feel better about the fact they cant climb higher.

its low maturity and generally toxic behavior. MM HAS to make a match. It does not have the option to tell players, "fk off not enough population online." There are no restrictions for premade and the normal MMR values are hidden. The end result? People Try Harding in a casual mode to rub their "skill" in your face because they are salty they cant do better.

Frankly I hate rank shaming and most the toxic behaviors you see from assholes in this game. You don't have a match with out teammates or enemy's so if you enjoy the game don't turn players off it by behaving like a spoiled 13 year old.

Its not gonna get better unless player attitudes change. Once upon a time GLHF was how basically everybody started a match. Now apparently that's dead and the standard interaction is "GGEZ" at a match end.

Also as i am trying to be frank with random folks on the boards. If you expect all 4 teammates to be better then your enemy in the counterpart your a fucking idiot and don't know much about team games. Why exactly should your team be stronger 100% of the time? Some ones going to do badly. This is just part of the game, some times its gonna be you. Don't be a dick about it because its literally inevitable.

The GodkartherJun 9, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-09T23:03:42.953+0000)

They are just as stuck at their MMR as some one whos stuck in iorn or bronze is. Rather then get better the turn to trying to pub stomp lower skill players to feel better about the fact they cant climb higher.

its low maturity and generally toxic behavior. MM HAS to make a match. It does not have the option to tell players, "fk off not enough population online." There are no restrictions for premade and the normal MMR values are hidden. The end result? People Try Harding in a casual mode to rub their "skill" in your face because they are salty they cant do better.

Frankly I hate rank shaming and most the toxic behaviors you see from assholes in this game. You don't have a match with out teammates or enemy's so if you enjoy the game don't turn players off it by behaving like a spoiled 13 year old.

Its not gonna get better unless player attitudes change. Once upon a time GLHF was how basically everybody started a match. Now apparently that's dead and the standard interaction is "GGEZ" at a match end.

Also as i am trying to be frank with random folks on the boards. If you expect all 4 teammates to be better then your enemy in the counterpart your a fucking idiot and don't know much about team games. Why exactly should your team be stronger 100% of the time? Some ones going to do badly. This is just part of the game, some times its gonna be you. Don't be a dick about it because its literally inevitable.

Yea I get what you're saying and was thinking something similar. I used to play CS and this sort of behaviour was commonplace on that game. Smurfs stomping low rank players because they couldn't rank up.

AnotherFeederJun 10, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-09T23:03:42.953+0000)

They are just as stuck at their MMR as some one whos stuck in iorn or bronze is. Rather then get better the turn to trying to pub stomp lower skill players to feel better about the fact they cant climb higher.

its low maturity and generally toxic behavior. MM HAS to make a match. It does not have the option to tell players, "fk off not enough population online." There are no restrictions for premade and the normal MMR values are hidden. The end result? People Try Harding in a casual mode to rub their "skill" in your face because they are salty they cant do better.

Frankly I hate rank shaming and most the toxic behaviors you see from assholes in this game. You don't have a match with out teammates or enemy's so if you enjoy the game don't turn players off it by behaving like a spoiled 13 year old.

Its not gonna get better unless player attitudes change. Once upon a time GLHF was how basically everybody started a match. Now apparently that's dead and the standard interaction is "GGEZ" at a match end.

Also as i am trying to be frank with random folks on the boards. If you expect all 4 teammates to be better then your enemy in the counterpart your a fucking idiot and don't know much about team games. Why exactly should your team be stronger 100% of the time? Some ones going to do badly. This is just part of the game, some times its gonna be you. Don't be a dick about it because its literally inevitable.

Lol wtf are u talking about? He said he got them in a normal game. Queing a norm to have fun without consequences is giving up on climbing now?

Kai GuyJun 10, 20191 votes

There are no restrictions for premade and the normal MMR values are hidden. The end result? People Try Harding in a casual mode to rub their "skill" in your face because they are salty they cant do better

Going to a normal game and playing your mains just so you can rub it in and insult lower skill players is what I am talking about. Its not all that hard to tell if your normal MMR is lower then your ranked MMR. Its not all that hard to group with a few lower MMR friends to drop your teams MMR range down.

When players get stuck and decide to be assholes to others because of that? I dislike that behavior.

Your welcome to que for norms, I am not upset at folks "try harding" or "Playing for fun" in a normal. People can play what they want. Its the players being verbally toxic that are actively sucking fun out of this game that I am raising an objection to.

Exin0Jun 10, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-09T23:03:42.953+0000)

They are just as stuck at their MMR as some one whos stuck in iorn or bronze is. Rather then get better the turn to trying to pub stomp lower skill players to feel better about the fact they cant climb higher.

its low maturity and generally toxic behavior. MM HAS to make a match. It does not have the option to tell players, "fk off not enough population online." There are no restrictions for premade and the normal MMR values are hidden. The end result? People Try Harding in a casual mode to rub their "skill" in your face because they are salty they cant do better.

Frankly I hate rank shaming and most the toxic behaviors you see from assholes in this game. You don't have a match with out teammates or enemy's so if you enjoy the game don't turn players off it by behaving like a spoiled 13 year old.

Its not gonna get better unless player attitudes change. Once upon a time GLHF was how basically everybody started a match. Now apparently that's dead and the standard interaction is "GGEZ" at a match end.

Also as i am trying to be frank with random folks on the boards. If you expect all 4 teammates to be better then your enemy in the counterpart your a fucking idiot and don't know much about team games. Why exactly should your team be stronger 100% of the time? Some ones going to do badly. This is just part of the game, some times its gonna be you. Don't be a dick about it because its literally inevitable.

How can be high gold, plat or diamond stucked in low silver mmr? There are three options: 1.)MM dont work 2.)they are boosted 3.)purposly tanking mmr

Most likely option 1. is right and MM doesent have any conditions how to pick players it just slap anything based on timestamp and sometimes choosen position.....

Toxicity is different beast and most effective solution will be remove chat or maybe make him active in only for premades and put pings, emotes etc. on CD

Kai GuyJun 11, 20192 votes

The op is talking about Normals MM. He has players who are higher MMR in ranked Ques shit talking him for being Lower Ranked Que In the Normals Que.

Normal does not have the best MM. Its inherently weaker due to premade with 0 limits as well as how many folks don't actively grind in normal to win. For an example of this, often times players tank their Normal MMR by using it to learn champions which results in them being vs lower MMR players in normal then if the qued ranked.

Its not uncommon to see tilted players who know their Normal MMR is far below their skill go there to blow off steam. Well... That might be false. Truthfully I want to state that's just my opinion built from observation.

Does that clear it up better? Im saying that some players who are higher mmr get frustrated when stuck just like lower mmr and sometimes they will go try to pub stomp to feel better. Some do this with smurfs, some do this by playing their best picks in normal/flex and hope to abuse either lower skill enemy's or folks learning new champions.

Exin0Jun 11, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-06-11T07:09:04.216+0000)

The op is talking about Normals MM. He has players who are higher MMR in ranked Ques shit talking him for being Lower Ranked Que In the Normals Que.

Normal does not have the best MM. Its inherently weaker due to premade with 0 limits as well as how many folks don't actively grind in normal to win. For an example of this, often times players tank their Normal MMR by using it to learn champions which results in them being vs lower MMR players in normal then if the qued ranked.

Its not uncommon to see tilted players who know their Normal MMR is far below their skill go there to blow off steam. Well... That might be false. Truthfully I want to state that's just my opinion built from observation.

Does that clear it up better? Im saying that some players who are higher mmr get frustrated when stuck just like lower mmr and sometimes they will go try to pub stomp to feel better. Some do this with smurfs, some do this by playing their best picks in normal/flex and hope to abuse either lower skill enemy's or folks learning new champions.

I know about what was OP talking. Bottom line is MM is frustrating no matter what excuse we can thing, players should play against same skill level players. thats whole point of implementing MMR and MM and if others games can make it work riot can too if wants. LOL isnt first game on market any problem you can thing in this department somebody figured out years ago its just up to riot to do it or ignore it.

Luther King Jr VJun 9, 20198 votes

I get flamed for rank in arams ffs aram doesn't even have ranks

MyrmironJun 9, 20192 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-09T23:36:23.181+0000)

I get flamed for rank in arams ffs aram doesn't even have ranks

That's wrong, ARAMs have matchmaking. I know because a friend of mine who is REALLY good at the game keeps getting matched with high Diamond/Masters/Challenger players exclusively in ARAM on his ARAM account.

Luther King Jr VJun 10, 20193 votes

it has its own matchmaking but not a ranked queue I get flamed for soloq rank in aram even tho they are entirely different game modes I find that kind of hilarious

Jon MoxleyJun 9, 20195 votes

Why don't u just "/mute enemy" so u can enjoy the game?

FOR JUSTICEJun 9, 201917 votes

he can and most probably is, but this doesn't affect post lobby.

The GodkartherJun 9, 20194 votes

[{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-09T22:57:26.574+0000)

he can and most probably is, but this doesn't affect post lobby.

Yea I don't care much about in game chat, it's the lobby chat which gets to me.

FeuerMarkeJun 10, 20194 votes

You can skip the stats screen too. I do if I know I had a bad game and dont want to listen to it.

General Esdeath Jun 10, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jon Moxley,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-09T22:50:34.987+0000)

Why don't u just "/mute enemy" so u can enjoy the game?

With that logic, why do we punish any toxic chat in League?

FullmuteAll playJun 9, 20195 votes

Cause game is toxic ? You think same or lower elo won't flame you ?

Luther King Jr VJun 10, 20191 votes

maybe because it's more annoying when a higher rank flames u because at the moment he has all the right to brag and prove hes better than u at the game with his shiny badge and u dont

CyceraJun 10, 20194 votes

I stopped playing ranked because of this. I know you're talking about norms, but in my ranked games, I would constantly be put in gold games even though I'm Bronze II. By the end of the game, I couldn't even do anything but apologize that Riot matched me into their game for some unknown reason.

The GodkartherJun 10, 20194 votes

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I stopped playing ranked because of this. I know you're talking about norms, but in my ranked games, I would constantly be put in gold games even though I'm Bronze II. By the end of the game, I couldn't even do anything but apologize that Riot matched me into their game for some unknown reason.

When I first played league and I was unranked, I got to lvl 30 quickly and started my first 10 matches of ranked for placements. I was being put in diamond games where I'd get real harsh flaming from my team mates telling me I was 'boosted' and I would try explain I'm new to the game. They'd say 'No way, bs, you wouldn't be in this elo'.

OHminusJun 10, 20193 votes

Gold High Elo

Gold players suck, I know because I am one.

DeleteSuppRoleJun 10, 20192 votes

They're just bunch of losers, rank doesn't matter, if they shit talk you and bring up rank just respond with "lol k"

ShiroyashayamiJun 10, 20192 votes

By saying "uninstall" they basically care for your health xd That is the best advice anybody can get about this game.

"Git gud" is a good motivator. It surely helped me.

"You are shit" is like saying "you are a human being". It states the obvious.

You are not allowed to enjoy the game because Riot made normal games as competitive as ranked. Blame them for that. Normals aren't even fun or worth playing anymore. I agree with you, they should be all about fun and doing stupid ape-like shit but in fact they are not. Riot failed at distinguishing normals as a "fun mode" and when players don't have fun, they treat normal games as a sport or a show off. OR people are just assholes. All of them. And you are playing a MOBA, so you will interact with other players. Which are people. Which are assholes.

Frontline FuryJun 10, 20192 votes

First of all, gold, plat and diamond are not “high elo”. diamond is the floor of the “mid-elos”. Secondly, anyone that thinks their rank makes them special are low elo. Rank fluctuates rapidly and you climb up and down thousands of time in a year. Unless you’re challenger there is ALWAYS thousands of other people just like you.

Mute anyone toxic and report them after the game. These are random strangers you will never meet more than once (unless you play at like 4 am and queue up again instantly).

KaishaJun 10, 20192 votes

The point of league is to be as toxic as possible. That is why the game exists.

Feirisu NyanNyanJun 10, 20192 votes

Report Mute Mute all

RaQqaJun 10, 20192 votes

I usually play normals just to test builds, champions etc. Im d4 myself and I usually play better than anyone on normals since I get usually gold-silver people. If someone as d4 is tryharding on normal and flaming some lower division players for playing bad on normal then he must be r%%%%%ed. Feels bad that u are meeting such people. Just don't worry, use mute button and after the game just report them. Funny thing is that whenever I play bad on normals im just called boosted and that I bought an account lmao.

On normal these insults are just childish like "uninstall, u suck" bblala. When I was playing on d1 elo 2 seasons ago I've just met the most toxic people ever. They would just try to slowly crash u mentally. They were fucking psychos, feeling above anyone and anything just because they were in higher division than u. I don't know if they were feeling like this game is their life or something simillar to good job. They were feeling already like gods of this game, and that the game is the real deal, which is funny because if u are not streaming or playing pro u won't get anything from the game. Just feels bad for challanger elo and how toxic it must be.

Unstoppable MonkJun 10, 20191 votes

Just tell them high elo ruined low elo ranked with their influence so they're just going to have to deal with everyone low elo in normals. Because ranked is 100% unplayable now since muh smurfs needing low reqs to ranked we have the Clown Sea in low elo with disposable accounts while fighting diamond 1 smurf junglers.

Positional ranked hurt players trying to rank up everything seriously and benefited those that didn't so HONK HONK CLOWN SEASON 9

AnotherFeederJun 10, 20191 votes

Maybe they just lookin out for u. Alot of higher elo players got in to deep, and the cravings kick in when they try to leave bcuz they still remember when this game was fun. They are saying u should uninstall b4 it hooks u too and destroys ur sanity by becoming progressively worse every patch.

5StackUltOneShotJun 10, 20191 votes

Idk, my main account is Diamond 1 and I get flamed for being 'low elo hardstuck trash', its normal I guess

CG LuxannaJun 10, 20191 votes

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You Are Cute XDJun 10, 20191 votes

It means you're better at ARAM than you are at SR. I play ARAM in a pretty high elo, and have come up against pros a few times and held my own. I'm a bronze/silver player on SR. They're different game modes, with different skill sets, so they have different MMR. You must just be pretty good at ARAM.

Also, a lot of these players have lower ARAM MMR than they could because they don't play it very much.

ZaFishboneJun 10, 20191 votes

In my experience normals is a lot more chill than ranked. I mean even if I'm loosing I feel alright, and I just don't see the same amount of flame as I do in rank games.

ZoeasyJun 10, 20191 votes

It's partially due to rank. As soon as people start reaching plat, they think they are the new Faker ready to turn the meta upside down. Mostly, it's just the players being toxic, nothing we can do about it sadly*[zombie-nunu-bummed]*

Klonoa128Jun 10, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Godkarther,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E85atEiF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-09T22:44:44.103+0000)

I'm tired of this BS MMR in normals. Every single game now at least half of the players are gold and sometimes there's even plat or diamond players recently. (I'm Silver 4). Last game 4 people on the enemy team were gold and at the end of the game flamed me for being shit saying 'Git gud', 'You're shit', 'Uninstall'. Why tf should I have to deal with this shit? I'm Silver 4, put me in games with silvers or high bronze. I don't care if my queue time is 9 minutes instead of 4. What's the point of waiting 4 minutes to have an extremely un fun game with high elo team mates flaming me for being bad and enemies trash talking me. Then after the game I get laughed at for being silver 4? Why am i not allowed to just enjoy the game?

You'll find assholes flaming you no matter your or their rank. Unfortunately the best way is to mute them, or laugh at them if you can. (Gold calling plats "plat hardstuck" make me laugh so bad)

DeracadaVenomJun 11, 20191 votes

Because thats how mafia works

Tuition FeeJun 11, 20191 votes

TBH it's okay that you're getting matched with diamonds, as long as enemy team has similar matchmaking. It's not okay that they're rank shaming you.

JamlanceJun 11, 20191 votes

I personally don't flame people at all and it is not something that is tolerable. I feel you bro. they are assholes+big ego. just mute them and enjoy your game. there's always that mute button for you.

The KombinatorJun 11, 20191 votes

What i even love more, if they start this shit on Normals, or if they start it even before game for not using the meta. And i'm like dude. If you wana tryhard win, then go freaking ranked! I don't go to normal to do the same meta stuff with my main. I go there to practice secondary champs, try out stuff, and experiment with possibilities. I do this so if it turns out badly then i lose normal and spare your *ing LP.

True GarenJun 11, 20191 votes

Isn't the comeback that actually your teammates need to "Git gud" and raise their MMR so that RIot computers will stop matching them into your games? Because apparently, Riot MMR decided that you and the people flaming you were of approximately equal proficiency...

"The computer is never wrong."