So I've been sitting and waiting to see what is done with Graves

Rozair··1 votes·393 views

I guess nothing is being done so I figured I'd say something. Riot... You missed your mark again. You have made a monster. Now I've watched Graves played almost 9 out of 10 games so I played him to see why. First problem i see right off the bat is that his kit allows him to do well on the jungle. Very well. Actually the best jungling kit in the game. 2nd problem I see. Graves is actually a really good tank while dealing tons of damage. With health items like stearks or black cleaver Graves is almost unstoppable. Graves can effectively be played in any lane while being a bully and having great late game scaling. I watched a Graves 1v5 and walk away with a penta.

Now when Graves is played as an adc everything is balenced and normal. The problem is that because of the way the meta is he is the best top laner in the game and usually steamroles because 9 out of 10 times he is up against a melee champion. There is no counter to top lane Graves. This is where the problem is.

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alasarcher1 votes

There is counter to Graves top. He cant hit u as long as u are behind your minions and if u are skilled enough u can easily abuse his shot mechanics to farm without getting hit. While we are at it Olaf beasts him, i have seen J4 destroy him, Jax can beast him, Wukong can harass the shit out of him. Also cause of his shot mechanics, he will push lane always making him easy gank target.

Nahui1 votes

So many 9/10s. Fun fact, 9/10 statistics are made up on the spot.

Jbels1 votes

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So many 9/10s. Fun fact, 9/10 statistics are made up on the spot.

What about this one?

Nahui2 votes

Went right over you, huh?

Jbels1 votes

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Went right over you, huh?

I wonder if anyone ever considers that sometimes people go along with a joke even though they know what they are saying plays into that joke, all in the name of good fun

Nahui1 votes

Right over, huh?

Dragonface1 votes

Coming from a guy who has started maining Graves since his rework, Graves sucks if he's in the middle of minions and fighting. Or if a tank is right in his face. Garen beats him post 6, so do most assassins. If a Darius knows what he's doing, he poops on Graves.

The problem isn't "Graves is OP". The problem is "People don't know how to counter Graves". Kinda like the 10 posts that are made everyday about how Kat/Zed/Akali/Ekko/LB are OP.

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