6 seconds is wayyyyyyyyy too long of a cooldown for a ton of damage/ slow/ escape/ gap closer/ wall hop/ invincibility. Also it should shoot later beams in all directions dealing magic damage equal to 99% max health of champions and minions and apply his w on hit effect to them. ( Can't have it do 100% that would be op)
Hullabaloo907101 votesI think the real question is... Why doesn't it just reset on kills.
kile14753 votesWould be a better mechanic I feel. Increase the cool down then make it reset on kills. It would punish him more for miscalculating his damage.
Spaceman5pff5 votesI have been saying this for SOOOOOOOO long (mostly to my friends but i think i mentioned it in a thread here once)
The only Issue I can think of with this has been that his already mediocre laning (as far as mid goes since he will often be outranged) will become maybe TOO weak, but only time would tell, right?
Alternatively, they could SLIGHTLY increase both Q and E cooldowns and make his Q reset on kill or assist. This would not dumpster is tiny shred of lane safety TOO hard, but it would also serve to limit his bullying in melee matchups. The additional benefit of this is that it would give him a reset mechanic that allows him to go in more, but limits his ability to escape with the reset, since he would need an enemy behind him which will not ALWAYS be the case. Just food for thought while i sit in an 8 minute Queue at Silver 5 elo fml
ayNigerianPrince1 votesYou just got pranked.
ayNigerianPrince2 votesYou didn't get pranked.
Spaceman5pff5 votesBut is this simply another extension of the most twisted, unfathomably complex prank I have ever been pranked with!?
Velzard of Koz2 votesAlso while this may be champ design difference:
Why does Fiora's W while:
have significantly bigger CD at any rank than Fizz's E?
The only thing where Fiora is better is she can stun one target, but that needs to have the enemy not observing enough, Fiora with good reflexes and champions with obvious and delayed movement disable, WHO STANDS IN THE LINE, which usually are only melees. The stun isn't that easy to trigger and I don't find it to be good enough reason to rise the CD for 10 seconds difference.
DISCLAIMER: This post isn't meant to be asking to buff Fiora, just to show how she pays for fcked up invinciblity from W as opposed to how Fizz "pays".
Melledoneus10 votesExcept Fiora makes tanks disappear faster than a strand of hair on fire.
Faceroll Tactics3 votesIf she hits one of four corners of a champion, or if she ults she has to hit all four corners in 8 seconds for a grand total of 45-50% max health damage, she still has to burn through the other half, and champions like Trundle or Mundo can regen faster than she can hurt them if she is not consistently hitting vitals
Sypher The Poro6 votesTell that to the dude who hit 208% max hp damage on her ult, before they buffed the ratio.
Toplane Fencer2 votesWell, seeing as Fiora's winrate is abysmal right now, even on people who have played her a lot, Faceroll Tactics has a point. If she was still good at shredding tanks she would be one of the most popular picks right now in this tank meta.
Soldier of 4Jhin35 votesGuys stop joking around riot might take you seriously for once
Amarajah33 votesI think if he gets a kill with trollpole, next one costs no mana ! Sweet skill based mechonix eh?
Meanwhile talon has an 18 second cooldown at rank 1 on what is almost purely an enemy gapcloser, with only a lolmastery tier level damage increase and memetier slow.
TotalJerk6 votesTalon's is instantaneous and completely undodgeable
Caítlyn20 votesI was with you until I read the line about the laser beams. Dont make this troll post too obvious bro
Old Man Teeto14 votesThen can at least his ultimate have a Laser?
My Sea Cow15 votesOh don't forget to have all vision cut too like it does with a nocturne Ult.
DU Baymax11 voteslet's just make his ultimate a megalodon shark that swallows up an entire lane while we're at it, instantly killing anything caught.
Senate2 votesAnd if he gets a kill, he gets a bonus 50% cooldown on his ult.
Hildebrand11 votesI too, miss Doombots.
Ralanr8 votesLater beams? Do they send people back in time?
Spaceman5pff5 votesnono those would be EARLIER beams
mikemcparty7 votes"Complaining about fizz being overloaded, but goes 1/10 in his last game as fizz."
Colgate Gator7 votesI was ready to downvote this to hell, then I lol'd.
+1
Solari Fortune5 votesAlso make the damage on the slam down global
fukimissHarambe4 votesQuality shit post 10/10
Spaceman5pff2 votesTBH the post is totally fine, It just would fit better in memes & games
SlaktarTasken3 votesI disagree because he wouldn't feel as skillfull to play, he should need at least half a dorans ring to one-combo squishies at lvl 6, anything else is unbalanced!!!!!!!
Pika Fox3 votesHes a mobile assassin mid laner; pick a champ thats strong into him, such as Malzahar or Morgana.
Also, dont early pick someone like Aurelion Sol who is hard countered by the assassin mids.
Crowe Stalker2 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4tkA1UoO,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2016-05-13T09:34:54.173+0000)
Also, dont early pick someone like Aurelion Sol who is hard countered by hugging him
Fixed.
Pika Fox1 votesFizz has high burst, a gap closer, hard CC and a all in one dodge escape tool. Aurelion doesnt need to try to hug him; fizz will be hugging him of his own volition.
INoble KnightI1 votesYou mean when Malzahar isn't banned which is never?
DirkTarTar1 votesAlways blind pick until S6 passes.
Kingnewgameplus3 votesMalz actually kinda gets shit on post 6, since if fizz lands shark, you cant ult otherwise it would just get interrupted, and if you wait out fizz's ult you're probably already dead.
INoble KnightI2 votesThen I get stuck with the other bullshit
I GANK LANES3 votesAlso it should shoot later beams in all directions
http://saltirefoundation.thegither.com/file/17196670-2064-4d0f-871f-c41e9afc9a08.jpg
Raithofhel3 votesIt really is an underpowered skill. I mean, all you have to do is CC him. It should at minimum apply a slow + give fizz a shield and movespeed buff.
Gnart Even Close1 votesthey need to buff the AP ratio and base damage, and lower the mana cost. you should be able to one shot enemies and spam it without consequence
five oh tree 2 votesBut... it's 8 seconds at max rank...
Torea218 votes[{quoted}](name=ninja swaggy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4tkA1UoO,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-05-13T04:34:35.923+0000)
But... it's 8 seconds at max rank...
About 4 if you hit the CDR cap
Faceroll Tactics3 votes1.6 if you're playing urf mode
Gnart Even Close2 votesdon't forget, his W should do % missing health true damage, and his Q should stun enemies. it's also really important that his ultimate be point and click instead of skillshot, so he can be as skillful as zed
Faceroll Tactics2 votesYou forgot his passive not only ignoring unit collision but also ignoring wall collision and being able to break the fourth wall
Gnart Even Close1 votesmy b, he also needs to be deadpool and be able to slay enemies with vicious puns and regenerate 50% of maximum health per second as a passive
BakedLotion2 votesIt should just give him immunity to tower damage. Oh wait
Spoofghoul2 votes6 seconds is wayyyyyyyyy too long of a cooldown for a ton of damage/ slow/ escape/ gap closer/ wall hop/ invincibility. Also it should shoot later beams in all directions dealing magic damage equal to 99% max health of champions and minions and apply his w on hot effect to them. ( Can't have it do 100% that would be op)
nononononono
i mean it is a great idea but the lasers just dont fit
i think instead of lasers it should be nami tsunami ults shooting out which apply nearsight because saltwater in your eye hurts.
CasterGilgamesh2 votesyou forgot he needs to have a 3 hit passive and make all allies immune to damage while he is on the pole
