Honestly still can't believe people are having a fit about Zoe

Subject 5··2 votes·809 views

She's usually never a problem in SoloQ. The only thing worth mentioning for me is that fact that she SHOULDN'T have a movement speed buff. As an artillery mage, she needs to do devastating damage from afar but be weak up-close. Also remove RNG, because RNG has no place in this game.

But most people who complain about Zoe literally don't even know what the champion is or their performance, she is just annoying to them and therefore they perceive Zoe as a failure. Not only is Zoe incredibly telegraphed but they also rely heavily on a team _**without **_engagements and _**without **_sustain. While windows of opportunity are as telegraphed as her abilities, it takes simple problem solving and decision making to play against her.

Maybe that's the REAL issue here? People want to focus heavily on mechanics, but not the actual macro of the game? It's why a Challenger Annie player is infinitely better than a Diamond Zed, they have an actual grasp on how to play the game. Who and what to look for . . .

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Love Anastasia3 votes

Zoe is stupid, her W is stupid, her E is stupid, and be able to one shot being behind while being able to do dps is stupid too

Having free summoner spells is stupid, but them giving also movement speed and damage is stupid af

Crimson Zeppelin2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Destello Veloz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zFLWJpZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-01T08:07:52.445+0000)

Zoe is stupid, her W is stupid, her E is stupid, and be able to one shot being behind while being able to do dps is stupid too

Having free summoner spells is stupid, but them giving also movement speed and damage is stupid af

Maybe if you do not go Mid Ap ezreal with 140 games and 45% winrate actively holding your teammates down. You can have a good experience. But who am I to judge?

rawiazam11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Crimson Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zFLWJpZY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-08-01T08:15:05.051+0000)

Maybe if you do not go Mid Ap ezreal with 140 games and 45% winrate actively holding your teammates down. You can have a good experience. But who am I to judge?

nice one

Love Anastasia1 votes

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nice one

Nice one except because I dont play ezreal mid

Love Anastasia1 votes

I dont go Mid ezreal, i go mid Camille with 68 % winrate and mid Irelia with 60 % winrate

Subject 52 votes

[{quoted}](name=Destello Veloz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zFLWJpZY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-01T08:07:52.445+0000)

Zoe is stupid, her W is stupid, her E is stupid, and be able to one shot being behind while being able to do dps is stupid too

Having free summoner spells is stupid, but them giving also movement speed and damage is stupid af

Those are all subjective opinions that board a hate train for the sake of hate and balance based on bias. This post is calling out people who have no reason to hate Zoe other than she is just an irritant to deal with.

Saying something more along the lines of: "I don't think that an artillery mage should be given some kind of agility" is a lot more persuasive than whatever it is you're trying to get across right now.

Love Anastasia1 votes

I will say it in other words

Zoe is a champ that has a high range, high dps, high burst, a long stun and easy to hit stun, free summoner spells, movement speed, and which only difficult point is to hit an hability that stay in the map for 3 seconds? and then one shot you. You cant build damage against her because she one shot you, you cant build tank against her because she does true damage. You cant all in her because she uses her E and stop you.

Just a fast vision at LCS pickrate of Zoe talks itself and explain how stupid it is

Subject 51 votes

[{quoted}](name=Destello Veloz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zFLWJpZY,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-08-01T09:16:37.198+0000)

I will say it in other words

Zoe is a champ that has a high range, high dps, high burst, a long stun and easy to hit stun, free summoner spells, movement speed, and which only difficult point is to hit an hability that stay in the map for 3 seconds? and then one shot you. You cant build damage against her because she one shot you, you cant build tank against her because she does true damage. You cant all in her because she uses her E and stop you.

Just a fast vision at LCS pickrate of Zoe talks itself and explain how stupid it is

You speak a lot like how Hashinshin speaks, basically making every single champion sound busted as hell.

To answer what you're saying, yeah, she's high burst. That's her thing. That's what ALL burst mages do. (Not just is she a burst mage but she's an artillery mage too.) But no, she doesn't do high dps, she doesn't even do medium dps, I don't know what you're talking about here. Dare I even look at your history to see that you don't play her enough to say?

"Can't build tank against her." If your idea is to poke out a tank with all of your CDR's then build a item 3083 but if you're focusing a tank on Zoe then you're likely a low elo Zoe who won't be going anywhere anytime soon. (In regards to true damage also, Zoe doesn't ACTUALLY do true damage. It's conditional, so it can reach a point in which it does become true damage. Spaghetti code.) As it stands you seem to be reaching out for anything to put against her though. Zoe targets squishies, building tank of a squish makes them useless anyways. Thus, the point is invalid and holds no actual weight. If anything, tanks destroy Zoe simply because of how her kit functions . . . an artillery mage is weak up close.

Although in regards to complaining about an ability that requires people to step on after it's been activated . . .

Don't step on the ability? Totally busted.

Though I didn't mention anything about LCS. So let's clear this up really quick here: LCS is a completely different game than ours. Zoe is good in professional play because it's a coordinated play system that these players have practiced and mastered 10 fold hours than myself or you have ever put into this game. Though if you want to see some of the absolute worst champions picked in soloQ becomes gods in pro-play, then don't look at the LCS. That's not competitive, that's semi-competitive. It's a joke basically.

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/tournament/stats.php?id=LCK%20Spring%202018

You can look at Korea though. You'll see similar numbers to LCS, proving that even shitty champions like this guy can be good in coordinated play. https://champion.gg/champion/Galio/Middle

Beatrice falls1 votes

Whenever I play her, I want to punch something. You know when you're chasing a Ahri that runs down the river and manage to side step her E ? It works right ? Well with her, she misses her E, doesn't matter is stays on the ground and you have to make a huge sidestep, each sums she uses gives her shit tons of movement speed while dealing damage, her Q deals incredible damage and can be used while walking. She's not fair to play against, neither to play as. It's not "annoying" it's purely unfair and broken.

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