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Actually having a lot of fun with the new Assassin stuff

Seenan··4 votes·750 views

Something satisfying about having 70+ Lethality on Talon midgame or comboing with Leblanc now, without using her old ultW (pre-update).

Oh, and a note for this board...Talon can fuck Yasuo up in lane easily now. Since a lot of his damage can be achieved with WQPassive instead of needing ult. Unless he windwalls and outplays you, but we all know Yasuo's just overpowered and everything he does is op.

Though I feel like some of Leblanc's delays should be lower, so far, her numbers are fine imo. Her W has a better delay on teleporting back now to give some counterplay and a large chunk of her damage is now locked behind the 1.5s delay on her passive. I believe it should scale down as you level up, just as Lethality gets to scale up. Her passive-Q effect feels somewhat like Ryze' E(fluxed everything with another E maybe)-Q now. I can bet that they have similar code going on.

I saw a somewhat fed tankali, which is not fun to battle without a voidstaff, at least, on Leblanc. Just constantly healing off her passive + visage.

Haven't seen Ekko. Fizz is alright. Might need a tweak. I saw someone make Shaco work (not AP). Kha seems to be decent as well. A LOT of people are picking and banning Rengo.

Akali mains probably hate that they killed her burst, but she was almost unfun to play against past 6. Even if you absolutely dicked on her in lane, if she gets kills here and there and starts the ball rolling, she'll still eat your carries. Her ult had a total of a 300(+150% AP) damage at level 1. How many champs have a super high ratio on their ult AND high total base? Her level 3 ult was 750 +150% AP. Syndra's is higher at the best conditions, but...it's Syndra.

I personally didn't have any issues with Akali or Shaco. I feel bad for the mains. But their champions are snowbally as all hell. Shaco could stand to use some tweaks. Akali could use some cooldown tweaks or AP ratio tweaks on her ult or something. I saw a suggestion that said to make her passive strikes switch position (magic damage first, heal second)...could help too.

tl;dr, having fun with my old fave champs Talon and, my older one, Leblanc. The rest of the assassins outside of Shaco and Akali seem decent but could use tweaks.

16 Comments

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

KATA ISNT EVEN IN HIS LIST ANYMORE... That's how much ppl consider her as an assassin after this rework XDDDDDDDD

Seenan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zF06WKBu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-09T21:17:50.215+0000)

KATA ISNT EVEN IN HIS LIST ANYMORE... That's how much ppl consider her as an assassin after this rework XDDDDDDDD

I did see her, and I just saw her in a game with Doublelift on his stream. He seems to think she's one of the best performing. My other friend seems to think she's op. She's probably op or at least...one of the strongest reworks. I just see her way more often than any of the assassins really.

EDIT: I just wanted to center around either my fave champs or the champs that may need some tweaks, mainly. Kata's pretty fine.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Your friends and that streamer are mental... she's literally useless and weak atm ROFL... haven't seen even one person doing event remotely ok... and I'm maining her since release and I wanna kill myself with huge amount of deaths and literally no damage 90% of the game and 0 actual skilled plays... Actually I did an amazing paly today! And it was escaping with 0 dmg from enemy mid 2 towers by their wolves with whole team chasing me... Fact is I couldn't do any dmg or kill on her so she's horrible... IDK who's that guy saying she's OP... maybei n low ranks she is :D

kat needs her old kit back, this thing is hell to play rofl... Only positive thing I saw in it is that I can still play jungle at lower level accounts, but that's all and only if I go with my tank build... And she doesn't even perform that good as tank anymore, as with the old kit...

Seenan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitty Katarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zF06WKBu,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-10T02:39:22.047+0000)

Your friends and that streamer are mental... she's literally useless and weak atm ROFL... haven't seen even one person doing event remotely ok... and I'm maining her since release and I wanna kill myself with huge amount of deaths and literally no damage 90% of the game and 0 actual skilled plays... Actually I did an amazing paly today! And it was escaping with 0 dmg from enemy mid 2 towers by their wolves with whole team chasing me... Fact is I couldn't do any dmg or kill on her so she's horrible... IDK who's that guy saying she's OP... maybei n low ranks she is :D

kat needs her old kit back, this thing is hell to play rofl... Only positive thing I saw in it is that I can still play jungle at lower level accounts, but that's all and only if I go with my tank build... And she doesn't even perform that good as tank anymore, as with the old kit...

Have you tried Q into E (to dagger/person), into W, into R? That theoretically procs both thrown daggers and all her abilities.

EDIT: Also, be sure to have Rylai.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

It doesn't, because I'm not that slow. Rylai is useless because you cant spam it as before... ^^ Don't give me tips of how to play or ask me what I do, I did all possible combos, the moment you get a reset or the enemy right clicks the other way from your dagger it's over for you. Because your resets are useless... Because you need to wait 1 hour for a bloody dagger to land and pray someone will go near it.

Michael Sykes1 votes

agree with the LeBlanc thing. Should scale down, although I am sure it is better to wait how she performs on that patch

Seenan2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Michael Sykes,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zF06WKBu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-09T21:37:42.008+0000)

agree with the LeBlanc thing. Should scale down, although I am sure it is better to wait how she performs on that patch

I played her. And some challengers agree that she needs it lower/to scale down.

Brotha1 votes

I just need someone to tell me how Ekko is playing. My internet is fudged for another couple weeks so I can't test him.

Seenan1 votes

{quoted}

I just need someone to tell me how Ekko is playing. My internet is fudged for another couple weeks so I can't test him.

Ekko has slightly higher burst right now cause Q's minimum ratio damage got a buff IF he builds AP. His scaling damage on his passive is lower late game, higher in the early game.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

That moment where you want to try all the fancy new assassin toys...

But you remember that the only assassin to your name is Master Yi.

Rip me.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Master Yi isn't an assassin.....

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Exactly. Only the client counts him as one. QQ.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

They updated the roles but still havn't added it to the client too..... I just want skirmishers to be added already lol.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Shaco-wise it's not really anything difficult needed.

Just change his stealth to 2 seconds rank 1 but make it scale per level instead of rank that way they can balance it easier(Riot has issues with stealth gap closers but 1.5 seconds is far too low, I end up having to put 2 points into Q before level 5 just for FUNCTIONALITY o it which is not good at all)

Aside from that it's just damage but people are still figuring out AD shaco builds and lethality so I'm not really impatient on that.

I do kinda wish his new backstabs did a small AoE effect(kinda like a tiamat) so he wasn't forced to build it but stealth needs addressing first and foremost and aside from that I'm liking it a lot.

Seenan1 votes

{quoted}

Shaco-wise it's not really anything difficult needed.

Just change his stealth to 2 seconds rank 1 but make it scale per level instead of rank that way they can balance it easier(Riot has issues with stealth gap closers but 1.5 seconds is far too low, I end up having to put 2 points into Q before level 5 just for FUNCTIONALITY o it which is not good at all)

Aside from that it's just damage but people are still figuring out AD shaco builds and lethality so I'm not really impatient on that.

I do kinda wish his new backstabs did a small AoE effect(kinda like a tiamat) so he wasn't forced to build it but stealth needs addressing first and foremost and aside from that I'm liking it a lot.

Idk, Shaclone (Master Shaco) pretty much quit cause of these changes. Pink Ward is like on the fence about how he feels iirc. It's a buff to AP Shaco somewhat. Everyone besides people that don't really play Shaco often hate the changes cause his damage seems way lower because of them.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Yea his damage is somewhat lower, but his level 1 stealth is an alarming issue. Plus if it was fixed having extra early E damage would be more possible.

But before damage buffs for AD shaco, that stealth needs touchups.

As for shaclone, that guy always looks for a reason to quit. Same dance different season.

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