I know Patch 8.02 is basically locked in now... But could you please consider revisiting Ornn?

Sahn Uzal·1/22/2018, 3:21:34 PM·10 votes·1,346 views

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7ryui6/removing_the_unstoppable_from_ornn_w_was_wrong/

This post is currently on the Reddit Frontpage, and Frankly, as someone who likes Ornn quite a lot, I totally agree with it.

I know the removal of his Unstoppable™ is most likely going to hit live, but could you please revisit the champion, give him his Unstoppable™ back and nerf him in some other area? Be it damage, Cooldown on his W, Duration of the Brittle debuff or whatever, reducing the skill ceiling on a Tank, (a class of champions that is often already considered lacking in this department) just really sucks. :/

21 Comments

Ralanr1/22/2018, 3:22:49 PM12 votes

I agree. Ornn’s problem isn’t unstoppable. His W just hits too hard and too often.

I’d rather they remove his shield.

Eedat1/22/2018, 3:36:00 PM5 votes

Undo his mana cost buffs. The problem with Ornn is that he can spam all day no problem. I'd feel better getting chunked from a combo if he actually was punished for messing one up

eaglei31/22/2018, 3:30:55 PM3 votes

I also think unstoppable is the wrong way to go about it. His dmg and low cooldowns make it so most melees against him in lane can only sit back with no true opportunities to go in on him.

vgamedude1/22/2018, 6:24:02 PM3 votes

I like how everyone goes on about winrate but ornn is at a staggering 48 percent and is getting nerfed harder than ***King vayne is.

Naalith1/23/2018, 12:16:35 AM3 votes

Upvoted. Ornn isn't even particularly OP anymore, and the entire reason he was OP in the first place was because Riot inexplicably buffed the shit out of him right when he came out. I remember a ton of threads after the first couple buffs begging Riot to stop buffing him because everybody knows when Riot overbuffs something, they won't just revert the buffs later and start looking at pieces of the kit to ruin. I think all they had to do was make his ult reactivate instantly and up his E damage when the new runes hit, that's it. Changing W1 to max health was a mistake. Buffing the percentages was a mistake. Buffing his ult cooldown insanely was a mistake. But instead of reverting said mistakes (if his W1 did current health damage again I'm pretty sure everyone would stop complaining, since he has to land an E or Q to secure kill instead of just breathing fire in their general direction,) Riot has chosen to start stripping mechanics off his kit. IMO stripping mechanics off of kits should be a last resort, but Riot has taken a liking to doing it lately for no discernible reason. Even if he was OP, which I don't think he really is anymore, this isn't the way to go about things.

Ahristocats1/22/2018, 3:34:27 PM3 votes

His ult nerf is totally deserved, it's stupid as hell

His unstoppable thingy? never was i like "oh my god dude, if ornn wasn't unstoppable right there i would have won" or "ornn's unstoppable W is broken"

he needs a damage nerf, or brittle duration nerf

Zed genius1/22/2018, 3:42:37 PM2 votes

I hate tanks, always have, but I feel sad for the unstoppable removal in ornn's kit

MAGE ITEM KEKW1/22/2018, 3:25:04 PM2 votes

I personally hate ornns Unstoppable, but I guess a shield removal would suffice

greekvandaL1/22/2018, 3:32:59 PM2 votes

what do you expect from silver balance team?

Jerry SeinfeId1/22/2018, 5:50:12 PM2 votes

How is orn not being unstoppable gonna stop him from cc chaining me into death?

Nyarlathοtep1/22/2018, 10:42:57 PM2 votes

To everyone that wants to remove ornn's shield, guys are you for real now? He is a tank. All tanks have a tanking spell ( or at least a very big portion ) or something similar ( mao's/zac'z passive ). Removing his tanking steroid (from a tank ofc) is like taking away the playmaking ability of lee sin.

Plastic 5 ADC1/22/2018, 9:03:11 PM1 votes

Nerf the damage on his stupid W

AS I LAY FEEDING1/23/2018, 1:49:16 AM1 votes

Well people are complaining about the dmg and they are not even touching it. Ofc people wont be happy