I like LoL more than Dota..... but....

Archenz··2 votes·512 views

Why does it look like Dota has better champions? Has more fun with them, and makes them more unique.

Don't get me wrong, I love LoL in every other aspect. It's just Dota seems to have "funner" champs. It's like they say.

"You know what? Screw it, add it into the game, let's just make everything broken op so nothing is op"

For example.

Anivia and Dotas Fire Bird (dont know the name)

Anivias passive is like a crappier version of Dotas bird ultimate, which stuns everyone around, and resets cooldowns, and brings back all mana and healt but can be destroyed.

Twisted Fate and Natures Prophet

When twisted fate was released his ult had a 30 second cool down and was his E, obviously copying Natures Prophet which has global range teleport and only 20 second cool down.

I'm totally fine with LoL copying Dota champs, because Dota champs are great. However they nerfed it hard, changed it from global to limited and increase the cool down greatly.

Also in Dota, almost every champ has some really unique and interesting kit, for example. Tiny I believe he is called, can toss enemies AND allies. Something that would be great to have in LoL, but has never been added.

Also, dota really doesn't care with giving half of his champions stuns, invisibility, an army of minions, more invisibility.

Basically, I know its impossible to do anything about it now, and I will probably try Dota. But, can anyone tell me why Leagues champions aren't like that?

I wish. League went a bit wilder when making champs, even if they where op.

8 Comments

Jamaree1 votes

Because they are different games, with different philosophies.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

we talking original Dota or dota 2 because of course lol copied the original so did every moba to some degree plus if i recall correctly one or two of the people who made the original are part of riot, and if its dota 2 we're talking about twisted fate was made even before dota 2 came out so yeah there is that. and yes in dota they have extremely unique kits but the cc and mana costs as well as cooldowns are mostly longer in that game which make it a lot less flashier and fun imo.

SLangedEdge1 votes

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we talking original Dota or dota 2 because of course lol copied the original so did every moba to some degree plus if i recall correctly one or two of the people who made the original are part of riot, and if its dota 2 we're talking about twisted fate was made even before dota 2 came out so yeah there is that. and yes in dota they have extremely unique kits but the cc and mana costs as well as cooldowns are mostly longer in that game which make it a lot less flashier and fun imo.

Dota 2 Heroes are still porting over Dota All Stars. So anything similar from LoL that's like Dota(2) are slight design steals (borrow)

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Most of the heroes in Dota are super boring to play and require almost no thinking, Intelligence are mostly fun there, but 90 % of the rest are made to be played by 5 years old - playing with and against a "carry" in DOTA means losing brain cells...

doublelift fg1 votes

nocturne is a weaker spectre

and this is an example, i just regret that lol doesn't have op ability. I like lol more than dota but i wonder why we don't have fun ability like spectre's dark blade(???) which is nocturne Q but allows her to go through walls.

SLangedEdge1 votes

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Why does it look like Dota has better champions? Has more fun with them, and makes them more unique.

Don't get me wrong, I love LoL in every other aspect. It's just Dota seems to have "funner" champs. It's like they say.

"You know what? Screw it, add it into the game, let's just make everything broken op so nothing is op"

For example.

Anivia and Dotas Fire Bird (dont know the name)

Anivias passive is like a crappier version of Dotas bird ultimate, which stuns everyone around, and resets cooldowns, and brings back all mana and healt but can be destroyed.

Twisted Fate and Natures Prophet

When twisted fate was released his ult had a 30 second cool down and was his E, obviously copying Natures Prophet which has global range teleport and only 20 second cool down.

I'm totally fine with LoL copying Dota champs, because Dota champs are great. However they nerfed it hard, changed it from global to limited and increase the cool down greatly.

Also in Dota, almost every champ has some really unique and interesting kit, for example. Tiny I believe he is called, can toss enemies AND allies. Something that would be great to have in LoL, but has never been added.

Also, dota really doesn't care with giving half of his champions stuns, invisibility, an army of minions, more invisibility.

Basically, I know its impossible to do anything about it now, and I will probably try Dota. But, can anyone tell me why Leagues champions aren't like that?

I wish. League went a bit wilder when making champs, even if they where op.

Tiny's toss skill was left out for "anti fun", "troll", "toxic", etc. The ability to throw someone somewhere they don't want to be was deemed to easily abused. I don't think this is true and would be a fun mechanic to have here.

NP's global TP doesn't work in LoL, there are no other global, or relocating abilities. And worse yet there are no standard TP's to defend against a global split push.

Truly Prideful1 votes

They're more interesting because there were more design risks when the heroes were made. When Riot takes design risks, people throw a fit so we can't have crazy things here.

Angry Monster1 votes

funner

Such a great abstract term that has no actual meaning. So glad that you are using this as a bases for a talking point..

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