Why doesn't Ezreal's 'w' work on neutral jungle monsters?

Cloud273··1 votes·1,335 views

It works on dragon and baron, so I don't understand why it doesn't work with red, blue, etc. Are we intentionally trying to keep Ezreal out of the jungle for some reason (not that it's even good in the first place...)?

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Zéychin2 votes

Ezreal jungle was a thing for awhile before the rework and it was not very fun to play against. That is probably why.

You know how Twitch jungle does red buff and then your solo laners have to give up farm and probably XP or they blow Flash/die at level 1? It was like that, except that Ezreal has a blink in his kit that autotargets champions and applies red buff.

boricCentaur11 votes

They do not want ezreal to be jg is the reason and the reason for that is I still remember ezreal jg and it was not fun to fight it like anytime a range jg is good early at dueling they just beat everyone in jg.

Cloud2731 votes

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They do not want ezreal to be jg is the reason and the reason for that is I still remember ezreal jg and it was not fun to fight it like anytime a range jg is good early at dueling they just beat everyone in jg.

Fun is subjective. I didn't think it was that bad to play against at all. His early game dueling isn't nearly as good as you make it out to be. He's a million times healthier than all the assassins running around in the jungle these days. Also just because something isn't "fun" doens't mean it shouldn't be allowed at all.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

Baron, Dragon, and Herald are EPIC monsters. They're affected by almost every debuff champions can normally receive.

The jungle camps on either side of the Rift are NEUTRAL monsters. They're treated almost like chunkier minions that don't aggro unless you attack them.

Cloud2731 votes

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Baron, Dragon, and Herald are EPIC monsters. They're affected by almost every debuff champions can normally receive.

The jungle camps on either side of the Rift are NEUTRAL monsters. They're treated almost like chunkier minions that don't aggro unless you attack them.

Yes I'm aware of this. What's your point though?

Modl Ryden l1 votes

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Yes I'm aware of this. What's your point though?

Neutral camps aren't always affected by champion debuffs. Epic monsters can be. So abilities like Talon's Passive, Ezreal W, will work on Epic monsters (Baron, Dragon, Herald) but not Neutral monsters Red/ Blue buffs or Gromp.

Cloud2731 votes

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Neutral camps aren't always affected by champion debuffs. Epic monsters can be. So abilities like Talon's Passive, Ezreal W, will work on Epic monsters (Baron, Dragon, Herald) but not Neutral monsters Red/ Blue buffs or Gromp.

It's not a debuff anymore. With old Ezreal it was. Now it's just a normal damage ability in his kit. There's zero reason why it shouldn't work with neutral monsters.

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