I'm climbing by abusing the fact that my jungle opponent is usually secondary role or auto-filled

Yenn··1 votes·1,083 views

This role really should not have reached this point. It's become so undesirable and frustrating to play that nobody wants to queue for it, and now we're left with this scenario, where I'm farming off role or auto-filled jungles for LP, which just perpetuates nobody wanting to play it.

The primary issues are that the burden of knowledge is too high and a single early mistake can make the game unplayable. If you ask yourself 'do I win a fight with the other jungler right now' at any point in the game and don't have a 100% correct answer, but your opponent does, you're likely going to lose.

This is almost entirely how I'm winning games with Udyr; the only champions I can't fight early are Karthus and Kindred, and they're rarely picked by people who don't main them. More often than not, my opponent doesn't know that they can't fight me and I kill them before level 4, and then I use that advantage to run around their jungle for the rest of the game. They have to concede all of their gold and EXP to me, or if they try to fight me, they die and feed me more gold. There's really nothing they can do after that first early death.

At the same time, if I get matched against someone else who mains jungle, the match is a clusterfuck where one of us wins or loses based on our team mates' picks and lane performance, which is just as frustrating.

There really needs to be a solid plan for fixing all of these issues in the pre-season. The current EXP changes will do nothing to mitigate any of these problems.

4 Comments

ViperVenom2 votes

Real jungle mains know you lose 1v1 against udyr on most champs early. Yes smashing autofill junglers is fun. Smashing people that randomly switch roles to jungle because they think theyre better than jungle mains is even more fun. The most fun though is smashing smurfs playing jungle. (In plat smurfing is a rampant problem).

Jesi Oni2 votes

Well.. there is nothing that could fix it. Jungle requires too much thinking compared to other roles... It demands too much activity on entire map and it does not have safe space.

I was playing jungle at early levels ( forced by blind pick normal - call order ) and even had pretty good win ratio on Elise but it was not FUN. I dont have predator mentality! I have prey mentality!

I dont invade but I am constantly afraid of invades and ganking in my jungle.

I am constantly wondering if enemy will steal my camps and I am frustrated when that happens.

Not only constant mind problems but also 'ganking vs farming' decision making where other lanes have both at the same time (roaming is rare as hell in my elo)

Naah... Better to play on lane where turret and wards protect you. Safe place 🌈

LightswornLance1 votes

Udyr is actually op AF in low elo. You just kill them in their jungle once and now you have two jungles. I've been climbing with Graves pretty well. If the enemy jungler is AD I can usually fight and kill them at scuttle and just win the game right then and there. Most ADC's are pretty useless anyways so it's nice to be the back up.

we began as one1 votes

now that the drakes are more important than ever, an autofilled bot and jungler will do the rest... meh...

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