Rofl Xin

Yenn·Feb 12, 2016·168 votes·6,329 views

Rageblade + Devourer, 1800 damage in 2.1 seconds while sitting on 200+ armor, 3k+ health, and healing for 220 every second hit.

Can we fire the fuck up who okay'd this change?

112 Comments

WizzleboomFeb 12, 201652 votes

Yes Xin is broken right now (just like the other dipshit twins Yi and Jax).

If you have a cc heavy team you can easily nuke him though. Still, it is completely BS that they let champs become that high of a threat in game.

This game would be much more fun if the 1v5 scenerio didn't exist.

Smitty ManjensenFeb 12, 201642 votes

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Yes Xin is broken right now (just like the other dipshit twins Yi and Jax).

If you have a cc heavy team you can easily nuke him though. Still, it is completely BS that they let champs become that high of a threat in game.

This game would be much more fun if the 1v5 scenerio didn't exist.

Well, if you have to make a CC heavy team just because of 1 champion, I think there's something wrong there.

Ariel the CruelFeb 12, 20162 votes

. . .Still, it is completely BS that they let champs become that high of a threat in game.

This game would be much more fun if the 1v5 scenerio didn't exist.

They only said you can. They never said it should be that way.

bobsenbobFeb 12, 20162 votes

generally you always want to have quite a bit of cc, you dont need to have like alistar amumu sejuani, just enough cc to lock him down for a couple of seconds and kill him

Smitty ManjensenFeb 12, 201610 votes

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generally you always want to have quite a bit of cc, you dont need to have like alistar amumu sejuani, just enough cc to lock him down for a couple of seconds and kill him

Exactly what I am saying, having to lock down a champ a couple of seconds, that means 3 or 4 requires 2 or 3 champs to lock 1 guy down, which shouldn't be the case.

Spaceman5pffFeb 12, 20161 votes

A sejuani alone can lock down xin for 2.5-3 seconds with q and ult

Smitty ManjensenFeb 12, 201610 votes

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A sejuani alone can lock down xin for 2.5-3 seconds with q and ult

Good thing that she used everything at her disposal to stop xin who potentially has QSS or tenacity.

BiffoloFeb 12, 20163 votes

Good thing all her shit is aoe so she's probably hitting more than one. Also, if xin has qss his defensive stats take a significant hit.

LeBlanc JameśFeb 12, 20161 votes

Good thing shes garbage......

BiffoloFeb 12, 20163 votes

There are plenty of other options too, just pick which you want.

Regardless, she's not garbage, just about average. http://champion.gg/champion/Sejuani

LeBlanc JameśFeb 12, 20162 votes

Garbage was an overkill word.... I love Sej, I just miss her being much better than she is now. Much better options.

BiffoloFeb 12, 20163 votes

When she was better she was absolutely gamebreaking. She's perfectly playable now.

LeBlanc JameśFeb 12, 20161 votes

I wouldn't call 1% game breaking.

She is playable now but there are much better options that destroy her. Shes not even top 25 now.

BiffoloFeb 12, 20162 votes

She's 28/48. Not every champion is going to be good at the same time in this game. If you liked her that much you'd pick her anyways, seeing as she's still pretty easy to succeed with.

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 13, 20161 votes

Well Xin wont have QSS and tenacity was nerfed so idk if you have to worry about that specific set of circumstances.

Smitty ManjensenFeb 13, 20162 votes

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Well Xin wont have QSS and tenacity was nerfed so idk if you have to worry about that specific set of circumstances.

Why wouldn't he have qss? It builds into mercurial scimitar which gives him some mr, cleanse and offensive stats, which are very good for him, when the enemy has a cc heavy team this item is a must have on any ad oriented champ.

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 13, 20161 votes

probably because its one of the most expensive items in the game and doesn't synergy with his kit at all. He can build real defensive items he doesn't have to rely on something made for squishy champions. Tell me you would really build Mercurial Scimitar on him over something like Rageblade or BoTK.

Smitty ManjensenFeb 13, 20161 votes

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probably because its one of the most expensive items in the game and doesn't synergy with his kit at all. He can build real defensive items he doesn't have to rely on something made for squishy champions. Tell me you would really build Mercurial Scimitar on him over something like Rageblade or BoTK.

When did I say I build this over rageblade? I even mentioned it's a situational item but reading too stronk, In the situation people where mentioning I would gladly buy it as my fourth item or at least qss and then finish it later.

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 13, 20161 votes

There is nothing situational about it. There are better offensive and defensive alternatives out there for him. That shit is a huge waste of gold for something that isn't a big deal for Xin in the first place. Why would Xin care about being focused by CC when he is a brusier that your not going to burst down and its less CC for other damage carries on his team.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbFeb 13, 20161 votes

They should either display on the left, or the screen should shrink to fit

do you read? Sejuani shouldn't have to blow ult to peel one person.

bobsenbobFeb 12, 20161 votes

... a couple fo seconds, I meant like 1.5-2 seconds which shouldallow the adc ample time to get away, then just begin kiting xin, heck 1 second of hard cc+a slow would be enough

Smitty ManjensenFeb 12, 20161 votes

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... a couple fo seconds, I meant like 1.5-2 seconds which shouldallow the adc ample time to get away, then just begin kiting xin, heck 1 second of hard cc+a slow would be enough

I see, let's say he did flash away from xin in those 2 seconds, so now he is starting to kite xin, which he won't be able to do alone or he will die, so there will be at least 1 more guy trying to help the adc, I think at leas 2 people will try to peel xin, so what does that cause? It causes the other 4 fucking people from xin's team to steamroll the other 2 while those 3 are fucking preoccupied with xin, because if they aren't he for sure will blow up the adc, I can guarantee you that 10000000%, and then he will proceed to murder the other people because he's still at at least 80% health because of his retarded w, and potentially lifesteal item or elixir or both.

SrKillaIotFeb 12, 20161 votes

lol xin is one of the easiest melee champions to peel in the entire game. His speed is garba his dash is a pretty long c/d with no cdr items which people honestly don't buy on him at most you see xin get 20% which 20% of 12 second late game e isn't even that sticky. Also if a ADC is alone in the first place without a tower near by or a support its that ADC player fault to begin with and he should die to xin or any other champion that comes at him. But the ADC god meta means that he won't cause he deals more damage every AA then xin does while critting on everyone of them too.

bobsenbobFeb 13, 20161 votes

why do you need 2 people to peel for the adc, since when did xin have mobility that rivals fiora? he has 1 dash on a 12 cd cd, 7.2 at MAX cdr, and why cant an adc kite him like oh idk every single other backline diver, he has a slow to keep you there and a conditional 1 second knockup, which even at max attack speed, takes more than 1 second to proc. If you dont have enough cc to peel off a guy with 1 dash, then that's a failure of team comp. Dont get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree that xin is a bs champion, but of all things to complain about, inability to be kited is probably the least.

Smitty ManjensenFeb 13, 20161 votes

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why do you need 2 people to peel for the adc, since when did xin have mobility that rivals fiora? he has 1 dash on a 12 cd cd, 7.2 at MAX cdr, and why cant an adc kite him like oh idk every single other backline diver, he has a slow to keep you there and a conditional 1 second knockup, which even at max attack speed, takes more than 1 second to proc. If you dont have enough cc to peel off a guy with 1 dash, then that's a failure of team comp. Dont get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree that xin is a bs champion, but of all things to complain about, inability to be kited is probably the least.

K will give up, but remember when riot nerfs him I will come here and say "I told you so", also you're probably one of the people who thinks graves is balanced.

bobsenbobFeb 13, 20161 votes

did you not see the part where I said I whole heartedly agree that xin is a bs chammpion? Im just saying that of all the things you could qq about, Id think that kiting him would be one of the last, also graves is another bs champion, ranged juggernaut with massive burst, wuht? Im not saying xin is balanced, Im just saying that he still has his weaknesses

ARequestOfDeathFeb 13, 20161 votes

cough has been that way for yirs to counter yi cough

KeevalroyFeb 12, 201631 votes

Can we just clear out the whole balance team and replace them with people who aren't incompetent, ignorant, egomaniacal liars who very fucking clearly play favorites when they "balance?" I think Riot should have done some spring cleaning a long time ago. This entire season should be shameful to whoever was on board with the choices made.

ArbiterOfTruthFeb 12, 20162 votes

I think we could leave Repertoir out of that list. He's made mistakes, but at least wants to fix them.

KeevalroyFeb 12, 20162 votes

As far as I was aware, of course I could be wrong, but I didn't think he did any balance. And if so, yeah he definitely needs to stay. He's actually capable of acknowledging mistakes and will actively work with the community and doesn't hold himself on a golden pedestal while he does so.

ArbiterOfTruthFeb 12, 20162 votes

Now that you mention it I think he works primarily on Champ Update.

IqqiFeb 12, 20165 votes

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Can we just clear out the whole balance team and replace them with people who aren't incompetent, ignorant, egomaniacal liars who very fucking clearly play favorites when they "balance?" I think Riot should have done some spring cleaning a long time ago. This entire season should be shameful to whoever was on board with the choices made.

A thousand times this. Riots current leadership is proof that a degree or where you went to school... doesnt mean you are an intelligent person in any way shape or form. Riot's current leadership and designers have to be some of the dumbest people in the industry. If it were not Friday I would a few thousand words.... in one paragraph..maybe 2 spaces in the whole thing.

NearanceFeb 12, 201617 votes

Meanwhile, Urgot gets a nerf. LOL summoner 31

B6WS TSW99Feb 12, 201618 votes

its more of a buff, that scare on his ultimate is really good

LoL Ergo UrgotFeb 12, 20167 votes

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its more of a buff, that scare on his ultimate is really good

How does that help him in 1v1 situations? This encourages him to jump in riskier situations with a weaker shield and passive. What if the enemy builds item 3140 ?

Demented GagFeb 13, 20162 votes

His damage reduction passive decreased, his shield duration decreased, his shield's strength decreased as well as ap scaling on it removed. item 3070 Urgot

Dirty BastardFeb 12, 20168 votes

Had a game against a xin this morning, build as described here. I was playing vlad and at lvl 2 his life steal rivaled mine. By lvl 6 he had wiped my team 2 times from the map.

He is broken and reason to dodge queue.

BadmoonBCFeb 12, 20165 votes

Xin isn't even close to broken compared to some of these champs man. There's so many powerful champs right now that riot is going by the "if everything is op then nothing is op" Jax Tahm Mundo Udyr Soraka Zed(with new item) Xin (And wait til you guys see new kog) The list goes on and on... Yet we still only have 3 bans per team? Give me a friggin break man. Come on rito

Sinister AnubisFeb 12, 201621 votes

I'd like to point out to you xin has a fast gap closer great cc and huge damage and amazing disengage with his ulti. On top of all of that i see him sustain and tank more then most champions. Oh and he can heal off of towers while being shot and still come out ahead on his hp.

charcharmunroFeb 12, 20162 votes

Jax is actually pretty decent. You can't really complain about Jax if you LET him get that far ahead. Tahm is annoying, sure, but that's it nowadays. Mundo is still pretty bonkers, but has enough bad match-ups. Udyr is stupid. Soraka is incredibly difficult to balance. Zed is balanced-ish, but Duskblade put him over the top. And Xin... Yeah.

DarkRitualFeb 12, 20163 votes

I feel like Soraka is fairly bnalanced right now. The mana cost on Astral Infusion was a great way to tone her down. Late-game she is better now though. You can activate Warmog's passive at lvl 18 with Warmogs and Ruby Sightstone.

hgjkdlsaf jeldvbFeb 13, 20161 votes

xin was a monster if ahead last patch. It's incredibly annoying when lane's don't know how to avoid his ganks and he just gets fed.

The Yetii RiderFeb 12, 20164 votes

As opposed to previously, when it was Sated Rageblade, 1500 damage in 2.1 seconds, with 200 armor, 3k health, and healing for 180 every 2nd hit?

These buffs weren't an issue, they just made people play Xin more. Rageblade is the issue.

Sneakyy XDFeb 12, 20164 votes

Why were you building armor against a Xin with Rageblade and Devourer?

WinBoatFeb 12, 20163 votes

We need to create a champion that can just 1 shot anyone from the base. Literally 1 shot even at level 1.

bill84Feb 13, 20161 votes

they just have an ability that deals 100% maxhp true dmg. I like it

DerfelFeb 12, 20163 votes

It's just the WoW phenomenon, where your devs are flat out stupid and really shouldn't even have jobs but it doesn't matter cause the success of the game isn't tied to something as meta as balance. Games just gonna get worse but it won't really matter till someone somewhere comes up with something new to play or in their infinite stupidity Riot does a cataclysm and changes their game to HoTS, which is already starting to happen (it's just part of the cycle, when the success of your game is so wildly independent of your actions you tend to act like a headless chicken and one day you just get run over by a truck).

The saddest thing is all of these clowns have league on their resume now so the chickenshits in suits who own the next big title will hire these clowns and the cycle of sadness starts anew (see keystone masteries and trashcrawler).

VelasanFeb 12, 20162 votes

Yeahhhhh... played against this today. Nothing to say. It's busted. Very very busted. We destroyed an enemy team so that every lane of theirs had fed. Their jg being xin zhao builds sated and rage blade.

He nearly aced our entire team as soon as he got it to sated in one team fight even after I had killed the rest of theirs. It was ridiculous. I mean this was a jg who had almost no farm the entire game (I'd already taken both his buffs twice), and he just got two items and steam rolled the rest of my allies.

It's going to be nerfed... and it was a silly idea to begin with.

WolfBVFeb 13, 20162 votes

"I don't like this buff so the person who let this happen should lose his job." Woah there you angry elf, listen to yourself.

HıryuFeb 14, 20162 votes

i feel like we should start over from season 4. Mostly everything was playable back then and the only thing that was overbearing was the amount of renekton shyv, and waveclear mages in the midlane, jungle was lee and elise, bot was hypercarry...now its just a fuck fest of all these broken champs that get the wrong things nerfed and become unplayable in the end because of everything in their kit being nerfed instead of the inherently broken skill being nerfed directly itself. not to mention they try balancing champs over items and then when that item is nerfed they never care to fix the champions that were nerfed because of those items. this balance team doesnt think and isnt consistent. its always random fucking buffs to champs that have broken kits from the fucking start and end up ruining ranked. there arent enough ban slots for how many broken ass champs there are in this game right now.