Word to junglers

NGNL Asian·Jul 7, 2017·2 votes·423 views

Stop afk farming when your lanes are losing. If your lanes lose, YOU LOSE YOUR ABILITIY TO FARM

If you gank 24/7 early game, you can GET ALL THE FARM YOU WANT LATE GAME MAN.

17 Comments

The Leo CatJul 7, 20174 votes

You should try jungling, and you'll realize that you should only gank a lane when there is a high chance of success. If you continue to try and gank lanes and fail you will not only be massively behind in gold, but in levels too. Never mind the fact that some junglers have slow early clears and damage, and will be behind in a 1-2 levels if they only farmed.

A Jungler's job is not to help you win your lane, or protect your lane. The jungler's main priority is to try and give you an advantage when he can. Protect your teams buffs, and to cover your lane when you leave or die.

NGNL AsianJul 10, 20171 votes

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You should try jungling, and you'll realize that you should only gank a lane when there is a high chance of success. If you continue to try and gank lanes and fail you will not only be massively behind in gold, but in levels too. Never mind the fact that some junglers have slow early clears and damage, and will be behind in a 1-2 levels if they only farmed.

A Jungler's job is not to help you win your lane, or protect your lane. The jungler's main priority is to try and give you an advantage when he can. Protect your teams buffs, and to cover your lane when you leave or die.

You crsly think I dont play jg after 2 years of playing

NLGG3R BEATERJul 7, 20173 votes

For some champions ganking is actually very situational until they hit 6 or complete their jungle item.

I mean if I'm playing MasterYi and you're getting shit on in mid lane by Zed I can't really help you even if I want to, being a bitch won't make the lane any better.

NGNL AsianJul 10, 20171 votes

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For some champions ganking is actually very situational until they hit 6 or complete their jungle item.

I mean if I'm playing and you're getting shit on in mid lane by I can't really help you even if I want to, being a bitch won't make the lane any better.

dude. I legit tried early ganking with yi b4. If it's zed i dont blame u considering how good of a early game he has. But if they are pushed up like lv2, you can just walk up with E and when they flash/dash away Q.

HalcyonDwellerJul 7, 20172 votes

In principle, I agree with you. However I'm concerned you're ignoring important parts of the picture.

Are you aware of the balance junglers have to strike between ganking and farming?
Are you aware that sometimes lanes are in a bad position / or bad state to gank?

The jungler has to keep track of a lot of things and manage pressure over the entire map while also trying to get enough farm / XP and not waste their time applying pressure that is ineffective.

It's a complicated job, frankly I'm just grateful when they do well enough to not fall behind.

NGNL AsianJul 10, 20171 votes

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In principle, I agree with you. However I'm concerned you're ignoring important parts of the picture.

Are you aware of the balance junglers have to strike between ganking and farming?

Are you aware that sometimes lanes are in a bad position / or bad state to gank?

The jungler has to keep track of a lot of things and manage pressure over the entire map while also trying to get enough farm / XP and not waste their time applying pressure that is ineffective.

It's a complicated job, frankly I'm just grateful when they do well enough to not fall behind.

Then tax 3 minions per gank, or just tax 1/3 of teh wave available. Legit, if you don't want to tax that's fine. The game rn is dominated by early game jgs(which is why they need to nerf lee sin, elise falls off earlier than him) that can just gank and farm early easily af, and that's legit most of the jg champs I have in my matches. Yes, I do play jg myself and Im not one of those people that can only play 1-3 roles.

HalcyonDwellerJul 11, 20172 votes

If you're familiar with the experience of jungling then please show a little more sympathy for your junglers. They have a lot to manage and it's a lot more effective to ask them kindly for what you need than it is to flame them for not helping.

Kirius DarkJul 11, 20171 votes

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Then tax 3 minions per gank, or just tax 1/3 of teh wave available. Legit, if you don't want to tax that's fine. The game rn is dominated by early game jgs(which is why they need to nerf lee sin, elise falls off earlier than him) that can just gank and farm early easily af, and that's legit most of the jg champs I have in my matches. Yes, I do play jg myself and Im not one of those people that can only play 1-3 roles.

All I see are losses and negative KDAs when you're stuck in the jungle role that you play 10% of the time

NGNL AsianJul 12, 20171 votes

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All I see are losses and negative KDAs when you're stuck in the jungle role that you play 10% of the time

do you think i care about kdas when I play jg. all I care about is we win or not.

ForFoxSakesJul 11, 20172 votes

Sounds like you have no idea how the jungle role works

Evil YasuoJul 7, 20171 votes

I'm not a fan of people that can't hold their lanes till at least lvl 6. I'm not even a jungler. Why do these people play a lane they can't win at?

NGNL AsianJul 10, 20171 votes

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I'm not a fan of people that can't hold their lanes till at least lvl 6. I'm not even a jungler. Why do these people play a lane they can't win at?

I nearly never complain until im like lv8... It's annoying to see people play lee sin and still fall behind on farm and ganks at the same time

Winters DawnJul 7, 20171 votes

If your lane is already in shambles after I've done a fill clear and ganked another lane you can bet I Wil never be coming to your lane. Because the enemy laner is probably fed and since you dont know how to play safe I can only assume you're very bad so ill soend my time getting myself stronger or a more competent player fed.

NGNL AsianJul 10, 20171 votes

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If your lane is already in shambles after I've done a fill clear and ganked another lane you can bet I Wil never be coming to your lane. Because the enemy laner is probably fed and since you dont know how to play safe I can only assume you're very bad so ill soend my time getting myself stronger or a more competent player fed.

you knwo what diving is? You know champs like darius can dive you being like 2/0 and starting with you 90% hp

Winters DawnJul 11, 20171 votes

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you knwo what diving is? You know champs like darius can dive you being like 2/0 and starting with you 90% hp

Ya and guess what weather you played stupid and fed him OR he was just strong enough to dive you over and over the fact remains the same; IF YOUR LANER IS 5-0 YOU DO NOT GET TO BE ANGRY AT YOUR JUNGLER. Because whats goimg to happen if he does gank for you at that point huh? Well that 5-0 darius now becomes 7-0. Its too dangerous.

In that situation you need to suck it up stop being a little brat who thinks the junglers only job is to camp a lane that is 0-5. I do nit undersrand why this is such a hard concept.

I had a top laner the other day who was, and I'm not exaggerating 0-5 k. He types in chat "yo jungler come gank for me, I'm being cammped." Of course I wasn't going to because the enemy was 0-5, you following? He overextends gets ganked AGAIN and says "Dude you need to learn how to jungle, come camp top" Like please tell me you see an issue with that?

The jungler owes you nothing. Learn how to not lose your lane in the first 8 minutes of the game and stop blaming your jungle when you over extend for tye 5th time.

Timethief49Jul 7, 20171 votes

Problem is when i know i wont get anything from ganking a loosing lane, i rather farm so i can do something later on.

FrightningJul 11, 20171 votes

Actually, that's exactly what they need to do if all of their lanes are feedlord status, because it's better to have 4 shutdown champions and 1 person doing alright then it is to have 5 shutdown champions. That said, if that jungler hasn't been active prior to the situation spiraling out of control, he/she may have some blame for that outcome (or maybe not, maybe his/her laners are just that bad/getting outplayed that hard).