Veigar is so Balanced

NGNL Asian·May 14, 2016·8 votes·1,683 views

This champion is legit bullshit now. You made it harder to lane against him. Harder to fight against him. Harder to focus him, etc. He can oneshot EVERY THING. EVERY SINGLE TANK IS NOTHING TO VEIGAR

22 Comments

CasterGilgameshMay 14, 20162 votes

he wasnt very hard to fight in the first place since his stun is easy to dodge he only has one CC and the rest of his spells are easy to dodge besides the ult.

afmghostMay 14, 20162 votes

Try magic resist, spell shields, and starving him.

NGNL AsianMay 17, 20162 votes

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Try magic resist, spell shields, and starving him.

I do but really, in a teamfight, others will use your spell shield and yer fucked.

afmghostMay 20, 20161 votes

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I do but really, in a teamfight, others will use your spell shield and yer fucked.

Which leaves magic resist and starvation.

Very Hard EngageMay 14, 20162 votes

the secret is.....

build a banshees veil sooner rather than later.... like 4th item or 3rd would be good. like really good.

then veigar does nothing, seriously nothing. you just countered a whole champion. just from the health/MR alone. the passive is icing on the cake.

Supreme Senpai69May 14, 20162 votes

They took away his mana regen in his passive, replaced it with a passive that requires him to fight you to gain AP instead of just passively farming minions like before (which I consider a massive buff to his late game, but not his laning phase.) As a Veigar main, tanks are Veigar's counter much like they counter ANY burst mage. His ult now does percent missing HP instead of enemy's AP, so it actually took a nerf. Especially to tanks. Because how is Veigar supposed to get a tank down to 33% HP?

I'm not saying he's weak, but before you ask for nerfs, try these tips.

If he uses his E on you, don't walk into the wall. If he uses his W right after, look at the ground. It shows you where it's going to land. Walk away from that zone while still avoiding the wall. For the next like, 12 seconds, he isn't a threat. He deals insane damage when he stuns you with his E, because that allows him to land his W+Q+AA combo, allowing for a TLD's proc as well. The W does insane damage but it's super easy to avoid. The E can set him up to 100-0 you, but it's super easy to avoid as well.

If you're around 1/3rd of your HP and Veigar is level 6, just back. But isn't that true with most champions with ult?

CrossetteMay 15, 20161 votes

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They took away his mana regen in his passive, replaced it with a passive that requires him to fight you to gain AP instead of just passively farming minions like before (which I consider a massive buff to his late game, but not his laning phase.)

He can stack from passively farming AND fighting you. Not just one.

Which makes him gain upwards of 750 AP by the time he has 3 items.

Supreme Senpai69May 17, 20162 votes

If he's fighting you then he isn't passively farming. That's just regular farming, which is more difficult because you have to do trades with the enemy, causing you to lose some CS or risk being damaged

CrossetteMay 17, 20161 votes

I mean, passively farming is probably the best option for Veigar in most cases. Now he's getting bonus points for defending himself.

Supreme Senpai69May 17, 20162 votes

True. You really need someone with all ins to counter him, or someone with really good poke.

NGNL AsianMay 17, 20161 votes

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If he's fighting you then he isn't passively farming. That's just regular farming, which is more difficult because you have to do trades with the enemy, causing you to lose some CS or risk being damaged

you can poke with Q while hitting the minion..

NGNL AsianMay 17, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Revan Senpai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JTu28fg9,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-05-14T19:27:37.322+0000)

They took away his mana regen in his passive, replaced it with a passive that requires him to fight you to gain AP instead of just passively farming minions like before (which I consider a massive buff to his late game, but not his laning phase.) As a Veigar main, tanks are Veigar's counter much like they counter ANY burst mage. His ult now does percent missing HP instead of enemy's AP, so it actually took a nerf. Especially to tanks. Because how is Veigar supposed to get a tank down to 33% HP?

I'm not saying he's weak, but before you ask for nerfs, try these tips.

If he uses his E on you, don't walk into the wall. If he uses his W right after, look at the ground. It shows you where it's going to land. Walk away from that zone while still avoiding the wall. For the next like, 12 seconds, he isn't a threat. He deals insane damage when he stuns you with his E, because that allows him to land his W+Q+AA combo, allowing for a TLD's proc as well. The W does insane damage but it's super easy to avoid. The E can set him up to 100-0 you, but it's super easy to avoid as well.

If you're around 1/3rd of your HP and Veigar is level 6, just back. But isn't that true with most champions with ult?

Ik that. I prefer the previous veigar more since it was better laning phase and but the new veigar is not the mage destroyer we knew but instead the ap garen pretty much.

GulmaMay 15, 20162 votes

he's pretty damn strong right now (top 3 mid in my opinion) My suggestion is to ban him or play him. That's how the current game state is. If it's op you ban or play it.

He can absolutely demolish a team with an aoe stun on a 5 second cooldown. ult will one shot weak champions and E will help kite for landing those W to melt tanks easily.

Very easy to play. Abuse him if you can, because that's how you climb in season 6.

ShahamutMay 15, 20162 votes

play adc, buy qss. gg. As soon as he cant stun you, you can just rush him and kill him. Its sad really.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 15, 20162 votes

veigar can kill an adc with just Q and ult he doesn't need a stun when he has 900 ap with 4 items

ShahamutMay 15, 20162 votes

Not if the ADC has Mercurial Scimitar and/or Maw (QSS builds into scimitar). Believe me, I play Veigar, and get stacked like crazy. His ult doesnt hurt nearly as bad until they are missing some HP now.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 15, 20162 votes

nope

Bulletproof CarMay 14, 20161 votes

i had a kennen lose to an ad veigar

MLDzXnRRRMay 14, 20161 votes

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i had a kennen lose to an ad veigar

LMFAO!!!!

Vistha KaiMay 14, 20161 votes

If there's anything bullshit about Veigar it's the safety from Q's range. You need to push him whole screen away from the minion wave to deny him anything. Oh, but then he can stack AP on you instead.

Pretty unfunny to play aganist, but that'd be most of rework-like changes in the past year, unless they are piss-ass undertuned.

MunchCrunchLunchMay 15, 20161 votes

the best way to deal with veigar is to send a mobile tank like ekko that can avoid his stun and just stick to him and force him to focus the tank.