Syndra Max Rank Q Passive Idea (A bit late)

Perma CC··20 votes·9,556 views

So I was thinking what if the Q max rank passive was this:

Dark Spheres explode at the end of their lifespan (which is 6 seconds) dealing the same damage to champions.

I feel like this passive makes her Q feel like its actually been upgraded into something new (Which was the origional goal when updating syndra's passive) but also it adds some power that isnt upfront loaded into her burst since its delayed by 6 seconds. Instead this gives her access to more control but without sacrificing the damage potential that could be there if people disrespect the control of where her spheres are placed. The only controlled new burst people could use would be placing a Dark Sphere and waiting until about the 5 second mark to E it at an opponent which would burst for the E damage plus the sphere exploding. <but i see this as a skill check as it would require set up and timing. All in all this would be a GREAT more interesting passive for her main damaging spell that accents her Damage and Control themes without sacrificing too much of either but also with plenty of counterplay.

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iPooUnicorns8 votes

Ooh I really like this idea.

Perma CC1 votes

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Ooh I really like this idea.

IKR it would be soo FUCKING COOL

iPooUnicorns1 votes

It would add a ton of skill cap to her already high skill ceiling, which I'm all about. Though the explosion damage might need to be reduced a tad, otherwise a combo like W-E-Q with perfectly timed explosions would hit a bit too hard.

Perma CC1 votes

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It would add a ton of skill cap to her already high skill ceiling, which I'm all about. Though the explosion damage might need to be reduced a tad, otherwise a combo like W-E-Q with perfectly timed explosions would hit a bit too hard.

Well grabbing a sphere with W would reset duration so it wouldnt explode on impact with is nice. :P the spheres only explode at the end of their lifespan so the only way to burst with it would be to place a dark sphere and e it at someone just before it expires so it explodes and does the E damage as well.

Ok sure but why3 votes

More Zoning potential? That's what every mage deserves!

Heckin Support1 votes

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More Zoning potential? That's what every mage deserves!

This was my first thought. If they do this she could start leaning towards being a zoning mage instead of burst mage she's meant to be. The passive is a cool idea, but I just don't think it fits her kit.

I also don't think it fits her explosive powerful personality. She has unlimited power, why would she want to set a trap and wait when she has this power to blow people up?

Ok sure but why1 votes

Maybe it thematically explodes against her will? She did betray her teacher for trying to teach her the values of self-control, so it could be that she's tampering with such power she still doesn't have that much discipline over, or something. I haven't read it in a year.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

Interesting.

Dead flag blues1 votes

Would be a sick combo to throw balls with her W right on time

Perma CC3 votes

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Would be a sick combo to throw balls with her W right on time

only thing is W resets dark sphere lifespan. :P

The Blue Rajah1 votes

This is an excellent idea! Though for the original damage might be a bit much.

It would also greatly improve her team fighting, since right after she ults someone there would be a minefield where the fight is happening.

FilDaFunk1 votes

Very good idea, I'm slightly concerned about how this may affect her pushing power. Noting this will be level 9...

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

This would make her the best push mage in the game, pretty much bar none.

Given Riot's trying to shift away from mages pushing with ease for free, AND she already has a respectable amount of CC + the ability to literally delete someone.. This would be way, way too much.

Perma CC2 votes

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This would make her the best push mage in the game, pretty much bar none.

Given Riot's trying to shift away from mages pushing with ease for free, AND she already has a respectable amount of CC + the ability to literally delete someone.. This would be way, way too much.

I mean its not hard to just say it only hits champions LOL

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

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I mean its not hard to just say it only hits champions LOL

I accept that I might be completely retarded, but what ability in the game only hits champions?

There are numerous abilities which have additional effects to champions (Fizz R only attaches to champs, Urgot's E only grabs champs), but what non-targetted damaging ability ability (Karthus R) has literally 0 effect on minions?

Silverjust1 votes

soraka e for example

Perma CC1 votes

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I accept that I might be completely retarded, but what ability in the game only hits champions?

There are numerous abilities which have additional effects to champions (Fizz R only attaches to champs, Urgot's E only grabs champs), but what non-targetted damaging ability ability (Karthus R) has literally 0 effect on minions?

I mean for instance her current new passive that they just chyanged it too is bonus 15% damagge to champions. So... not to mtention several mages getting "only does 50% of damage to minions" type deal. << this could be worked into it.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

I hope the damage doesn't stack. That ulti spread would be way too chaotic.

Preseason 1 Teemo mushrooms used to stack and it was god awful running into those and getting 100-0 just for stepping on a trap.

Fullmetallic1 votes

I like this idea, but maybe increase her spheres cooldown to exchange. Because god damn, 45% CDR 6-second landmines. a Q that hits chunks you for half your health lategame.

Pinkaj1 votes

Oh that's interesting. Kinda like a Sion + Zil, but Syndra version :D

Nausicäa 1 votes

This is actually a pretty bad idea because you could only reliably trigger the damage on someone who is bad at the game or otherwise through pure luck. This doesnt give Syndra any agency over the mechanic.

No one half decent at the game would stand on spheres anymore and you could not reliably trigger the damage yourself because keep track of all spheres durations and then actually getting one, through E to trigger would be too difficult.

On the other end it simply makes for frustration on the part of the enemy team if you get 6 man ult in the middle of an enemy team you'd just have this huge mine field in the middle of a teamfight.

Ashenvall1 votes
Bishasaurus Flex1 votes

What's wrong with her reverted passive? Now that she's been reverted, her poke will be even more insane with the 15% bonus dmg. Making her more reliant on actually hitting her abilities rather than just "pressing R".

As a Syndra main, it seems a tad OP because if the stun hits, it's guaranteed to explode (It would basically be like DFG). In conjunction with the True dmg from her W and a point and click nuke.

It brings a when new meaning to** So much untapped POWER!**

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