For the love of god make Pantheon Q a skillshot

dominusx·Sep 4, 2016·11 votes·727 views

^title..... make it like nidalee and give him extra dmg based on ranged hit just REMOVE this point and click autistic spam from the game!....not everyone wants to play fucking malphite to deal with him

15 Comments

cinomenapplebaeSep 4, 20167 votes

it should be the opposite from niddalee, the closer the more damage the farther the less damage, he is a close range champion.

NiaphimSep 4, 20163 votes

He should stay same. He is one champions who actually fall off late game in exchange for a strong early game, a 15% delta in winrate between 5 and 40 minutes according to champion.gg. If he gets a weaker early he will need a buff overall and end up in that group of toxic champions who are strong at every single stage of the game.

dominusxSep 4, 20162 votes

didnt say he should get his dmg down i'd even buff his dmg as long as his Q became a skillshot or at least reduce dmg on Q and ship it to his E because goddamn you outscale him but untill you hardcorly outscale him to 1v1 him easily you gonna have aids from all the Q's early game. it is NOT a healthy mechanic to just spam Q over and over and over untill you piss your opponent off.

NiaphimSep 5, 20162 votes

His Q being reliable makes his damage predictable. If you replace it with a skillshot and buff it this will lead to polar situations when good panths will just sit on your face and bully you out of lane like twice as fast. If you don't buff it, this means a straight nerf to his early game when he is weak in late game.

dominusxSep 5, 20161 votes

as i said i dont mind dmg as long as i can dodge it. for example i'd rather fight a 20-0 lux rather fight a 0-1 Syndra you know what i mean? but Panth he just Q-Q-Q-Q-Q and its rather annoying also short trades with autoattacks go in his favor becuz he can block up to 3 auto attacks per skirmish if he uses his passive correctly and its really easy for him to proc TLD

NiaphimSep 5, 20161 votes

As it is now it counters champions with dashes which is a very strong feat in terms of balance. If it becomes a skillshot you can dodge it its damage should be buffed. If a skillshot is easy to dodge it will hit HARD. Then there will be panths who will master this skillshot and destroy. Then the same topic will appear asking to nerf his damage but it will be balanced around dodging. Every champion has annoying points. As Yasuo is not OP but annoying so is Panth.

HateDaddySep 4, 20161 votes

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He should stay same. He is one champions who actually fall off late game in exchange for a strong early game, a 15% delta in winrate between 5 and 40 minutes according to champion.gg. If he gets a weaker early he will need a buff overall and end up in that group of toxic champions who are strong at every single stage of the game.

That doesn't matter, laning against him is one of the worst experiences in the game you can have. Sitting under tower for 25 minutes and not dying isn't meaningful counterplay.

Mira Arya EntheSep 4, 20162 votes

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^title..... make it like nidalee and give him extra dmg based on ranged hit just REMOVE this point and click autistic spam from the game!....not everyone wants to play fucking malphite to deal with him

Sure, make it a skillshot that the closer you are the more damage it does, but make it pass over minions. So that he still keeps his strength early game, if it hits minions then he would become worthless at harass.

dominusxSep 4, 20162 votes

sure. just making it dodgeable

Mira Arya EntheSep 4, 20161 votes

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sure. just making it dodgeable

Absolutely, agreed and upvoted. I use to play him, but between being easy early game and worthless late game. He is miserable to play with or against.

WinTheWarOnPantsSep 4, 20161 votes

^ this.

RalanrSep 4, 20162 votes

Making it a skill shot would be such a gutting that he couldn't be played anymore as a lane bully.

And being a lane bully is his thing.

Demon King MaouSep 4, 20161 votes

but i like playing vs malphite..

WinTheWarOnPantsSep 4, 20161 votes

or what if you make it fly in an arch? so it has a similar hit box to yoricks new E but with alot more range? that would give it a really cool javelin throwing feel. http://static6.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/11117/111174812/4895394-achilles.gif edit: idk if riot could do it, but make the hitbox shrink the further you throw it so it reflects the angle of decent.

dominusxSep 5, 20161 votes

ya why not it will fit with his theme as an artisan of war with exceptional fighting skills i mean sword and spears were the go to weaponry for ancient greece.