Can Udyr / Others have a real "Ultimate" ability?

Penta Penguin··1 votes·511 views

I don't know how specifically it could be done for Udyr, but I think these awkward champs that don't have Ultis or key moments in their kit are kind of an out-dated concept.

Monkey's Agility doesn't feel very useful at all at any point in the game. Plus, Tiger Stance is what you do for attack speed, Bear Stance is what you do for move-speed. We could replace this passive with something more interesting to give Udyr a "key moment" in his gameplay.

An example of what I'm talking about is Corki's new Special Delivery. He was another champ with no ulti but got this new thing on his kit. Yeah his missiles unlock at lvl 6, but after that it's like having 4 basic abilities.

Whether it's a more interesting passive on a big cool-down like Kindred, a new "super" upgrade to an ability like Corki, an item you somehow work towards buying or buffing up, something, anything!

Jayce is definitely a candidate for buying / upgrading an item like Viktor. Nidalee could have something where her goal is to clear out every camp in the jungle. Elise could have the ability to turn a cleared camp into an allied "Spider nest"

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Veraska3 votes

This is dangerous territory, in short, adding more abilities for this key moment definitely just sounds like adding more power, and the obvious answer is to nerf else were but I imagine people don't want there champions overall power going down for them to gain situational power, part of the reason no one's playing skarner

The 2 champs you listed are balanced in a way where not having an ultimate is a strength, udyr a 4 basic abilities are insanely powerful just by going off stats, it's why he feels so crazy strong when he's just a level or 2 ahead, his abilities scale super hard with levels

Jayce more or less is always ready to fight, there's never a time where you can say, "jayces ult is down, let's go in" same with elise, nidalee, etc.

In contrast to jayce and elise, look at gnar and Lee sin, 2 champs who have key moments despite also having 6 basic abilities, we all know how the community feels about those guys when they're strong.

Just bringing up some points on the balance of those champs, not saying you're wrong or anything, I think corkis package is really cool, and it'd be cool if udyr had like a sidequest or something in game that rewarded him for doing what he does, really lock him down as the "farm to god hood" jungler but those keymoments often offer a ton of Power and nobody likes losing power for situational gain

Ionian1 votes

Not all ults need to be flashy.

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