Your ADC is 0/2 and you just died trying to gank for them.
They're having a bad time but they're not given up yet and are ready to turn it around and come back.
Then you say "What the fuck this bot lmao ff 15 pls"
So not only have you decided to give up but you're also trying to tilt your team-mates and further drive your chances into the ground.
Maybe your team got out-played but if you start flaming then you're just playing yourself.
NF Remilia36 votesFlamers thinking be like : hmmm.. if i insult them hard enough maybe they will start playing better and carry me.
But srsly , yesterday in ranked somehow i got a silver 3 player last season silver 1 vs a diamond 2 last season toplaner and enemy team all were high plat. Highest in my team was diamond 4 last season. Somehow that guy got placed on this game. He got completly destroyed i think he was 0-12 or something. The midlaner start flaming him. I was like dude dont blame him, the system somehow put him into this game. Its not his fault for playing against better players. After which mid responded with " i will flame him so he can learn how to play f.... D... Sh... Player" Yeah.. His flaming totally won us the game ( we surrender at 20) xD
Dr Cat Pooch9 votesBecause it's the beginning of the season, those who were at Diamond or Plat last season are currently in Silver and Gold, ranking up like the rest of us.
Good job, though, for trying to defend him.
mts251 votesThat guy could have reached high plat or diamond in the preseason so his mmr is equal to yours, that might be the case.
Creamy Eevee16 votesThis one gets it have a +1
NelsieLisnen14 votesWell, the biggest int is actual inting. This could come second though
Psybicilin1 votesThe worst that can happen if someone ints is that you AFK in fountain and go to the next game real quick. On the other hand, insults and vitriol can completely ruin people's mood for the current game and future games.
Flawless Fetus5 votesThere is a button so you dont see toxicity. There isnt a button to not see inters. Lol.
NelsieLisnen3 votesThe worst that can happen if someone ints is that you AFK in fountain and go to the next game real quick. On the other hand, insults and vitriol can completely ruin people's mood for the current game and future games.
Well, if you afk in fountain, you are basically giving the soft inter exactly what they want, which is a reportable offense on your part. It's actually disgusting how much power inters hold in this game because of riot's poor punitive measures. I get were you're coming from, but there are so many oversensitive brats in this game, that'll rage just because you told them they should play more save or that the dive they did was in poor timing. For them, flaming is something as simple as you pointing out their mistakes when they just refuse to acknowledge them and feed consecutively. This kind of backwards cancel culture is only possible through the protective barrier of the web. In real life, if a person acts like an entitled brat in a team game, refusing to even try to improve or learn from people that actually know what they're doing, their entire team calls them out and even removes them from the equation in case they don't conform. gg. In this fiesta of a moba though sensibility is inverted.
CuddleAndCookies11 votesNah.. Flame is bad... People with over-blown ego are a sad case. Real inters, trolls and hard-tilted people are way worse.
When you get a salty duo you just stomped on your team and they just want to say: Did not carry this one and go 0/11 or something by 15 min...
Or when you get a duo, where top-lane picks into a counter gets 0/5 at 8 min mark and disconnects, then his duo-mid who is ok - disconnects too... Not bad...
When your adc gets triggered, you did not pick a sup he wanted... And just runs-down: bot for 3 kills and then goes mid for 2 more kills and goes to farm jungle...
Penta Penguin5 votesactual true inting (not just playing bad) happens way less than the average douchebag flamer
CuddleAndCookies2 votesSure... People love to talk and have little restraint in the internet... But...
You can turn off chats;
You can simply do not read or be above some text;
Good part of what people often claim is flame - is not one, but an attempt to point out the problem, give advice or a plain statement of a situation.
LordGeovanni1 votes1 and 2 are not fixes but bandaids once its already happened 2 isnt really something you cant do, you cant differentiate flame before you know its flame 3 I hard agree.
Kaelramus10 votesYou good sir (or madam) get an upvote for the positive post. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Mordechaiser9 votesIm abit of a hashinshin top laner at times so i can feed a lot early from limit testing but know how to macro and turn it around late game. When i get people that flame me it drives me nuts i want to afk and i cant flame them back or ill get banned lmao.
Like i had one game where i was 0/3 early and my jg kept flaming me even tho he fed the jax 1 kill early from invading and i didnt know when he'd hit level 2 so I got all in'd off guard. I just played proper until i came back into the 5/6 and took 3 turrets (2top1bot) jgl ended up 0/11 and whole team flamed him instead. Its just such a dumb mob mentality just focus on the fkn game and stop shifting blame to defend your ego.
JackMcCarry6 votesYou're right, when my Jungler says : "Oh i fed top 2 kills! your turn bot!" and goes in to int those 2 kills, the real int is me telling him to fuck off. My bad
Highwiseene2 votesInters are very rare in comparison to flamers.
JackMcCarry3 votesI wish i had your team mates then.
Highwiseene1 votesNot really, I can't tell you how many games i've lost because a teammate is afk typing at krugs while the enemy is ending the game. To a lesser extent, I can't tell you how many objectives i've lost because of a teammate being afk rage typing.
JackMcCarry3 votesAnd what ruins your game more? people going afk and typing at krugs thus losing you the game? or a guy going off in chat who you can mute and ignore if he gets under your skin?
Highwiseene1 votesBoth ruin my experience equally. I don't play for LP, I play to improve, and having to try to carry people who would rather berate their team than play is extremely frustrating. Since I focus on my own play instead of my LP, there's not too much of a distinction for me.
JackMcCarry2 votesOkay, you do you, but when in games i give my 100% and someone decides to just waste my team by intentionally feeding (not being bad, intentional feeding) i have no motivation to even try and play.
I'd take someone who flames and still tries to win over someone who just throws the game because the jungler didnt gank him, at least the flamer i can mute, i cant replace my inting team mate.
Highwiseene1 votesI'd take someone who flames and still tries to win over someone who just throws the game because the jungler didnt gank him, at least the flamer i can mute, i cant replace my inting team mate.
You're talking about this like it's mutually exclusive when flamers tend to do that more frequently than other players.
JackMcCarry2 votesim just saying one of those 2 offenses gets punished way harder and way more frequently than the other.
Highwiseene2 votesNo- One gets punished way harder, and the other gets punished more frequently.
Trolling is a 2 week or perma. Chat punishment goes from 10 game CR-25 - 2 week - perma. Issue is trolling reports require a lot of resources to actually validate, wheras chat does not.
Me no support2 votesYou're right, when my Jungler says : "Oh i fed top 2 kills! your turn bot!" and goes in to int those 2 kills, the real int is me telling him to fuck off. My bad
You're completely missing the point of this post
JackMcCarry3 votesNo, i get it, i was just tilted when i posted this after having 2 people who intentionally feed in my last couple of ranked games, im not against what OP is saying in general, if someone is doing bad flaming him wouldnt help, but people shrug off people who int way too much while crucifying anyone who has enough and types the F words in chat, as if that's what is ruining his team's game.
Again, not talking about people playing badly (that is fine) talking about people who grief troll and int.
Great Lad5 votesNa. I can objectively say that flaming doesn't negatively impact you. "Flamed" (by flame I mean, I actually didn't let anyone disrespect my time and told them to stop being disrespectful ****. Going 0-12 on your lane is straight-up not caring) my way into P1/D4+D3 MMR on this account.
KVbqbFsC8e5 votesThis doesn't make any sense. If someone already says ff 15, then why would they care about "driving their chances into the ground"? They already want to get out of the game as soon as possible.
spookdegrace2 votesI think it has more to do with the fact that their attitude has gone completely negative, they've already given up and they are actively trying to get the rest of their team to give up as well by tilting them with verbal abuse. The early game is important, but the game isn't officially decided until the mid game teamfights. Someone who gets tilted over the first couple of deaths already came into the game with the wrong mindset.
AeroWaffle5 votesThere's another level to take away from this.
If you insult and disrespect your own team in chat for how well they're doing, you're also increasing the chances that you run into griefers.
Think about it, not only are you giving them a reason to piss you off by insulting them you're also showing exactly what will piss you off. Doing poorly. So what better way to piss off of such a person than intentionally playing poorly.
tyralie1 voteswhen jungle keep suiciding to other lane that are 3 or 4 lv higher than them and do nothing the whole game or adc that did less than 2000 dmg the whole 25 min and is feeding too you simply can't win and they shouldb't be allowed to play ranked thats all. But the system is made to protect the weak player they can feed as hell afk troll but at the moment they don't use the chat its good if you dare ask them to play better or any other advice/help you get chat restricted at this rate they should jsut delete the chat from everyone if asking someone to stop troll/ asking to report someone for troll deserve a punishement
AeroWaffle5 voteswhen jungle keep suiciding to other lane that are 3 or 4 lv higher than them and do nothing the whole game or adc that did less than 2000 dmg the whole 25 min and is feeding too you simply can't win and they shouldb't be allowed to play ranked thats all.
If someone is constantly playing like you describe they should be dropping in rank. Skill doesn't disqualify a person from rank, it determines what rank they should be at.
But the system is made to protect the weak player they can feed as hell afk troll but at the moment they don't use the chat its good if you dare ask them to play better or any other advice/help you get chat restricted at this rate they should jsut delete the chat from everyone if asking someone to stop troll/ asking to report someone for troll deserve a punishement
I haven't seen anyone chat restricted for actual advice.
Asking people useless things like, "Play better" or "Stop feeding" are just that. Useless. To someone already trying to play better or stop dying that's very aggravating.
If you can't use chat without insulting someone you can remove your own chat (leave teamchat and allchat in the options). But everyone else who can use chat without being a dick shouldn't have the tool removed simply because some can't help but abuse it.
tyralie2 votesgot a chain win then 3 game in a rown with braindead troll or jungle its just horrible its not even funny to play when one lane is already like 5 0 in few min because one lane shouldn't be in this division . I play to win not to lose because one decided to troll the game of his 4 mates my best last season was g1 but got placed b2 this season it was a hell to climb back to s2 and now its the feast of troll kda juungle or other crazy thing that shouldn't exist in ranked If people troll to much they should get ban from ranked thats all
AeroWaffle2 votesgot a chain win then 3 game in a rown with braindead troll or jungle its just horrible its not even funny to play when one lane is already like 5 0 in few min because one lane shouldn't be in this division . I play to win not to lose because one decided to troll the game of his 4 mates my best last season was g1 but got placed b2 this season it was a hell to climb back to s2 and now its the feast of troll kda juungle or other crazy thing that shouldn't exist in ranked If people troll to much they should get ban from ranked thats all
So you want less punishments for trolls?
Because people who troll get banned from the entire game when detected. Riot isn't going to issue any punishments for anyone that they don't detect as a troll.
General Esdeath 5 voteslmao this post is 0-3 ff at 15 pls ty7ty7
HazeVictory4 votesThey've given up lmao. If there's anything I've learnt playing with bot lane ADCs it's that they generally lack a strong mental and if they feed once due to an obvious mistake they will continue to do so for the rest of the match. They don't wanna listen to the team, a lot of them haven't learnt to ward, and ADC players have the worst macro of anyone else I've seen.
I've legit seen top laners get outscaled and take a back seat after they've realized they can no longer 1v4 after a certain point in the game but whenever I see a Yasuo main or ADC player commit an obvious mistake and die, they continue to repeat it over the span of the match and instead blame their team. They just don't have a strong mental and the moment your adc falls behind he's outlived his usefulness.
NelsieLisnen3 votesThey've given up lmao. If there's anything I've learnt playing with bot lane ADCs it's that they generally lack a strong mental and if they feed once due to an obvious mistake they will continue to do so for the rest of the match. They don't wanna listen to the team, a lot of them haven't learnt to ward, and ADC players have the worst macro of anyone else I've seen.
I've legit seen top laners get outscaled and take a back seat after they've realized they can no longer 1v4 after a certain point in the game but whenever I see a Yasuo main or ADC player commit an obvious mistake and die, they continue to repeat it over the span of the match and instead blame their team. They just don't have a strong mental and the moment your adc falls behind he's outlived his usefulness.
It's all about perspective. ADC can be the most cancerous role to play as in my experience. Not only because with some marksmen you are completely dependent on your support to make advantageous moves, but because you also have to pay a much greater price for your team having bad macro. Every time I play an immobile adc and my team just refuse to push sidelanes I am left with two choices:
There's no correct macro decision in this situation, just the lesser of two evils. And I usually take these posts with a pinch of salt. If by "bad macro" you mean not rushing to help the jungler after every bad invade and dragon call then yeah I guess adcs are really bad at macro.
Oh and I usually find myself warding more than my supports.
HazeVictory2 votesAdc players are just salty people with shit macro. As a top/mid player you can usually predict the adc main's death from a mile away
NelsieLisnen3 votesAdc players are just salty people with shit macro. As a top/mid player you can usually predict the adc main's death from a mile away
lol, this mindset will get you scouted by Team Liquid. Keep it up bub
floo2 votesThey've given up lmao. If there's anything I've learnt playing with bot lane ADCs it's that they generally lack a strong mental and if they feed once due to an obvious mistake they will continue to do so for the rest of the match. They don't wanna listen to the team, a lot of them haven't learnt to ward, and ADC players have the worst macro of anyone else I've seen.
I've legit seen top laners get outscaled and take a back seat after they've realized they can no longer 1v4 after a certain point in the game but whenever I see a Yasuo main or ADC player commit an obvious mistake and die, they continue to repeat it over the span of the match and instead blame their team. They just don't have a strong mental and the moment your adc falls behind he's outlived his usefulness.
Yes, all adcs are the exact same, it's insane right? There's no difference between some bronze player, me gold scrub a tilted diamond player and Rekkles or idk, Bang w.e All the same.
Honestly pls throw that mentality out of the window, it's disgusting and not gonne help you or your team in the slightest. Most of the time it isn't just 1 person going mental, but reactions like yours that fuel the fire and make the entire game unstable from just 1 mistake that could've been dealt with.
1800NICECLIENT4 votesPeople often don't realize the whole point of low elo is that massive leads get thrown often, so it's worth playing mid/late game out usually. You'd be surprised what kind of leads get tossed out the window in a hot minute, lol.
Metal Janna3 votesI hate when my jungler ganks bot alone and dies because my laners are ahead. But i'll just be like Me: please don't come back Me: maybe go help (mid or top, whichever is doing worse)? I have confidence that I can do something useful late, but not that the ADC is going to suddenly pop off and start winning the matchup just from one gank. So my preference is that the jungler helps make sure the other lanes don't lose so they can carry us until we're useful again... And I know that this is 90% not going to happen if I flame him for the bad decision he just made.
Can't control what the ADC does, though.
CyberPhobic3 votesBut if I run it straight through mid Im pretty sure my team instantly opens after my second run through.
Anyone clever would just mute the idiot flaming on the other hand
spookdegrace3 votesagreed. I've never understood the logic of sabotaging yourself further because you complain about your own teammates mistakes. I've even seen people get their hover champ banned by their own teammates as an honest mistake, proceed to troll pick in their lane and run it down. Yeah your champ got banned, but why sabotage yourself further and garuntee a loss?
UselessReminder3 votessome of them do give up actualy... I don't flame though
Ash Lockheart3 votes[{quoted}](name=Penta Penguin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bO5VrxWB,comment-id=,timestamp=2020-01-25T12:19:43.410+0000)
Your ADC is 0/2 and you just died trying to gank for them.
They're having a bad time but they're not given up yet and are ready to turn it around and come back.
Then you say "What the fuck this bot lmao ff 15 pls"
So not only have you decided to give up but you're also trying to tilt your team-mates and further drive your chances into the ground.
Maybe your team got out-played but if you start flaming then you're just playing yourself.
This may be true, but seeing how the whole game is DESIGNED around how your team REACTS when fights break out, and Thinking ahead of what the enemy team will do before they do it, The game will always make a player flame. Its DESIGNED to make you get upset.
Here is your mix of players
Players who have took the time to master a few champs, and there ability's
Afk players
Intent to feed players who walk right in to feed.
Players who do not care about helping there team mates and just farm.
Players who are too scared to try to fight in team fights.
Players who spend the whole time waiting to KS instead of just fighting to win the trade.
Players who want to surrender because the team made some really bad picks in champ select.
Players that get upset if someone picks there champion in Champ select, and then follows that player for the whole match to try and get them killed, or just KS them.
Players who think the 6 to 34 in just 10 min match is still winnable like the old version of League of Legends.
Players who think there way, and mind set is always right.
Having all those mix of players in a video game that is based, and DESIGNED around reaction, and Strategy will always in time end with you getting tilted, and upset.
Why was the old version of League of Legends not as upsetting? Because the game was more built around how well a single player was playing, and not around how well the whole team does. There were other factors as well such as 10 min lane phase, Ruins that gave extra stats that could be mixed to do, many things like Extra Damage, Extra Armor, Magic Resist, Armor Pen, Magic pen, and the list goes on. Some of the best things about the Old ruins were you could go full Armor pen ruins and not have to worry about getting Armor pen Items. You could buy other items that could make your lane phase easyer. I sure miss those days of having so much extra health at level 1 for tanks, Or that full ruin page of AD for jungle.
One way or the other there is no such thing as never flaming, no matter how calm or pro you feel. In time one match will make you want to scream. Its inevitable.
Gall2 votesFlamers need to learn their lesson. Soft int them.
Teémò2 votesI always flame when I get stuff like.
rushing 
to build 
or 
rushing 
to build
You building those items well being 0/6/0 means you probably have little care of winning.
I don't have a problem with flaming as really it can be rather beneficial if a player is in auto pilot he's just in the zone. Now cussing and belittling someone to the point of making them cry, no I don't think that's right. I'd rather my team mates be themselves, but generally the flame I see the spam pinging alive is from the 0/20 guy trying to shotcall everything which is genuinely going to screw with your own idea of the scenario.
Xhaiden2 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpWWzmEBrt0
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JohnJeana2 votesMy entire attitude and game play depend solely on what you say to me in text chat. I am 12 years old. Please help me.