My last game is a great example of why this new honor system sucks

Dukues··5 votes·1,197 views

Just played a joke queue game. It's joke queue so I queue up playing off role and champ I never play Ahri . Its silver 4 flex but I am lanning verse platinum 4 Orianna. No big deal... its joke queue no doubt we both in off roles and playing champs we don't normally play. I am having a chill time, I am listening to music, jamming out, not chatting at all.

Anyways.. it's almost 30 mins into game I am like 10-1-10. Team feeding like crazy. No doubt game probably a loss but hey its joke queue no big deal I am just playing the game having fun playing Ahri. Buddy starts messaging me so I am whispering back. It's all good until I accidentally type too fast and miss the /w. My exact words were "too bad my team is feeding" or something close to that..... Now.... first off this the first time I talked all game.... 2nd... it's the truth.

So game goes on... I don't say much more until right at the end when our Nasus suicide dies for the 8thish time. So out of sadness and frustration rage on him a bit... Shouldn't have but w/e..... I mean the dude literally made the wrong call every single time it was quite impressive honestly.

So game ends... I end 12-3-10 241 cs. No pro stats but hey... for a gold 4 jungle main playing his like 2nd game of the season as Ahri verse a plat 4 player I'll take it. O yea... got an S raiting ... of course no one else on team did but w/e.

No honor. I get it... I accidentally typed a factual statement into chat.... sue me. And a little rage right at the end. I guess you could say this doesn't "justify" being honored but come on.... I normally don't care but honestly the only reason the game didn't end pre 20 was because of me. And I literally didn't even say shit until almost 30 mins into the game.

I hate people. I hate this games systems. Mastery system is a joke, honor system is a joke. I wish if you were going to punish people you would actually punish them. Otherwise ease off. This game was so much better when people just said what they wanted and didn't get penalized for it. I have never told anyone to %%% or any of the other bs that is said in chat. But I literally type a couple true facts about the game and miss out on honor and just w/e other BS system Riot adds in the future. I get people have feelings. I have feelings. I know if I disagree what you are saying I can mute you. And I will. I hate honoring people in losses but honestly.... if I have one teammate playing hard and carrying the game I will honor them especially if they a down to earth truth spoken person.

I miss common sense honestly its so far gone on the internet these days. I literally was being insulted the other day for saying cheating is wrong in another game. A person literally admitted to cheating and I called them out and other people were mad at me for calling the person out. WTF is this world coming to. This is why we have a president in the U.S. like Trump. WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE.

36 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama7 votes

You get honor for.. well, being honorable, not carrying. That is the idea, at least.

Offending your team is a pretty good way to not get it, and i have no idea where this rant is really going.

Warwick Main4 votes

{quoted}

No big deal... its joke queue

Some people play to win.

So out of sadness and frustration rage on him a bit... Shouldn't have but w/e.....

Not w/e, right there was enough for you to forfeit all honor and get reported. You're not honorable.

O yea... got an S raiting ... of course no one else on team did but w/e.

This is a w/e, your score doesn't matter when it comes to honor. At least it shouldnt.

No honor. I get it...

Then why are you posting

And a little rage right at the end. And I literally didn't even say shit until almost 30 mins into the game.

Hope you get chat restricted or banned.

I hate people.

They hate you too

I hate this games systems.

Then quit. It's a videogame.

Mastery system is a joke, honor system is a joke.

You're projecting.

if I have one teammate playing hard and carrying the game I will honor them especially if they a down to earth truth spoken person.

That's you. People honor for different reasons, but I'd never honor a dude who flamed someone for performing poorly. It doesn't help.

I miss common sense

I hope someday you find some.

Dukues1 votes

lol. Dumbest part is everyone tries to act so honorable. Then because I say a few words to one person "I hope you get chat restricted or banned". Wow..... so much for zero tolerance huh. That's one good thing Riot does is at least has some tolerance. Granted.... probably more than they should.

Dumbest part is your probably someone who rages on their team every game. I don't even need proof I already know your a hypocrite. Stop pretending your a saint.

Raptor420CRO1 votes

What's the point of you making this post just to argue and insult that guy for pointing out the flaws in your text? TBH I think you don't even deserve to have an honor level.... If I was deciding, you'd be banned :D btw learn the diference between your and you are.

Dukues1 votes

Well it's a good thing you don't get to make important decisions because your lack of insight and common sense. The classic attack grammar when you have nothing important to say. From EUNE no less. I will 100% spell correctly on the internet when you gain some common sense.

Dukues1 votes

[{quoted}](name=K9 Unit,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yu7AndUa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-29T02:18:33.904+0000)

Some people play to win.

Also wtf do you even mean by this????? I literally tried my ass off..... I mean if my team really gave a shit about winning they sure didn't show it.

MysterQ4 votes

Your first three paragraphs say otherwise, despite your scoreline.

Like if you want us to believe you, you called it jokequeue, chilling, chatting, jamming. Regardless of you doing well it is hard to say you were trying.

Dukues1 votes

Apparently listening to music makes you not serious at the game? Strange never knew that thanks for that helpful tip.

Your response is so damn hypocritical man. I knew I would get shit for this post but at least I am real. You act like everything is black or white. 0% or 100%. And that's what is so frustrating about people especially on the internet. Do none of you go outside and experience the real world? Not everything is black or white, 0% or 100%. Far from it actually.

Correct, I am not going to play my main role in this queue because at my current rank I don't have to and can still rank up. It's more fun for me to play off roles and champs I don't play as much. That doesn't mean I don't try in game, just not on my main champs/role. I have played this game forever.... and my average skill level played at is around mid gold. So I know, In roughly all roles I play consistently around this level. I also know any "higher" ranking player I play will generally be playing an off role because they would be a lower rank than solo queue and don't care as much. Doesn't mean they won't try, just not playing best role/champion. This can all be summed up because flex queue is literally a joke. I see that's all you play so you wouldn't understand. Solo queue is literally the only queue that matters (and it's match making is questionable).

So like I said.... I was playing hard chilling out trying to focus. It was a tough start to the lane but I survived and stayed even in CS. Ahri supposed to be a lane bully and I was trying but like I said I am not a pro Ahri one trick. Eventually I roamed and started getting some kills and assists and then started killing my lane opponent. I knew we had a high chance of losing because enemy top was beyond fed (finished 19-4) and they were working together better as a team. I didn't rage on our top for losing lane or feeding. It happens..... I have played this game for years and seen it all. But after 30 mins of trying hard and constantly watching our Nasus get caught out and split push while enemy kill our inhib or just chase shit fights despite us all spam pining him to stop chasing and come help I lost it and said a few words. Now of course anyone reading this only reacts to that part. I know it.... people are huge hypocrites and cannot think for themselves. But despite me playing well and hard and trying to work with my team we lose. It's whatever. I honor our Ashe because we had some nice arrow + charm combos. I was sad to see literally no one honor me for trying to carry the game. They probably duos and honored their friends or just pissed that we lost and left game. But it's just a great example of why this honor system is a joke. I always have known it is but it finally just hit me that I don't need to honor anyone. Honor 2 honor 5 there is no difference.

Which is why I will no longer honor anyone in this game except friends. Hopefully honoring your friends doesn't count, but it probably does knowing Riot. Ah well it is what it is. Hopefully one day they bring back honoring opponents as I would have honored Orianna as it was a very fun even lane. And I am sure at least one person on enemy would have honored me.

MysterQ3 votes

I am not the one saying you didn't try. I was simply saying if you come around calling it joke-queue, I can understand why people say you are a jerk.

Dukues1 votes

well how many players get LCS offers because of their rank in flex queue????? None????? hmmm.... When people look at players ranks what do they look at? Solo queue rank or Flex queue? O yea..... solo/duo rank. So why exactly is flex queue not a joke?

MysterQ2 votes

Well then you can continue to belittle people, just don't expect anyone to feel bad for you then.

DeathBurst4 votes

I mean, it's called "being honorable", and not "carrying", for a reason. You can be 20-0-10 and be an ass. And you can be 0-10 and still be sportsmanlike and fun and enjoyable to play with.

And it's not like you've been punished or anything either. You've just not been Honored. So what? You didn't made anything honorable, you just tried to win the game, which should be the default attitude anyway.

Dukues2 votes

But who actually honors because "honor". Literally every game people give out 3 honor to whoever carried. That's why its a dumb system from the start. No doubt people were pissed for losing... but then why even have honor an option. You know what would be a better form of honor than honoring your teammates? Being able to honor opponents. That would actually mean something. Too bad Riot shit the bed on that.

Slythion5 votes

But who actually honors because "honor"

that would be me

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Same, receive plenty of honor in noncarry roles too.

DeathBurst2 votes

At least me and the team you just got, apparently.

And all the other people commenting in this thread.

Mama Soraka3 votes

I honor people that make the game more fun for me. You don't sound like that kind of person.

Dukues2 votes

That's your opinion taken off one game and one write up. Damn it's amazing how easy it is to influence people on the internet. No wonder bots spamming propaganda are so effective.

Mama Soraka2 votes

When deciding to honor or not honor somebody you have only one game with them to make that choice. I don't honor people who flame, you flamed, case open and shut.

Almost everyone that has responded shares my opinion that you did not make the game more fun for your team, so maybe you should reevaluate your stance on what is and is not honorable behavior.

Or you could just throw around some more sarcastic comments about how propaganda is effective and call everyone in the thread sheep so you don't have to reflect on your actions.

Dukues1 votes

I mean the whole sheep thing is pretty true. I can't even respond to how stupid your comment about "I don't honor people who flame". Like... if you actually thought about that comment for a second you would realize how dumb you are.

Go back to having League on other people on the internet telling you how to run your life man. It won't get you anywhere but its an option many people choose today.

Mama Soraka1 votes

Man with an attitude like that it is really no wonder why I'm sitting with all 5 honor icons and honor 5 that barely took me 2 weeks to earn and you're the one making "Why am I not honored for flaming my team" threads. I'm fun to play with and I try to make sure everyone is having a good time. Even the enemy. I've had people tell me that I'm why they want Honorable Opponent back.

You were rude and disrespectful to your team and when almost 100% of the comments on your "I don't understand why I didn't get honored" thread indicate that your attitude and behavior are not acceptable you just start ranting about "people are sheep" like some conspiracy is stopping you from getting honor.

Friend, YOU are the common thread here. Nobody is out to get you, you just have a bad attitude and people are telling you that when they don't honor you. I'm very, very done trying to help you understand what you've done wrong because you don't want to hear it.

[sg-lulu]

Dukues1 votes

O no! Support main feelings hurt. Lol sorry to break this to you man but no one cares your honor 5 and people who do have small brains. Besides.... supports always get honored. Hell... I used to main support... never said shit because I knew I needed team to carry while I saved their asses. We get it.... easy assssssss role cool story.

Rude is disrespectful to team. Well no.... 1 player but ok. Tell me where did you learn 1=4? Interesting math you doing there.

Ugg worst part of posts like this is people get all caught up following stupid things. Never said I wanted honor 5 or anything is stopping me. People just assume that because they think honor 5 means something. Since we got an auto loss just thought it would have been nice for 1 person on team to be like "you know what man gg you tried". But na.... It's w/e back when first honor system came out people honored everyone every game. Then they stopped because everyone realized it was dumb. Now you can only honor 1 person... which lets face it doesn't make sense when you are a "team". Apparently Riot does the same math as you where 1=4 or 5.

But hey... check out League Reddit and see what a shit storm Riot employee has caused on there lmfao.

The sheep part actually makes so much sense after looking at comments. People think so black and white on the internet and in the world it's damn ridiculous. All I been saying is people should think for themselves.

Dukues1 votes

The only thing worse than support mains commenting about honor and mastery system is people commenting about ranked who don't even play ranked.

They are the true clueless ones.

Mama Soraka1 votes

You: "Why am I not being honored"

Everyone: "Well you don't seem like you were very nice to your team in that match."

You: "Sheeple, propaganda, Support Mains, premades, rito is out to get me"

I've been rewarded with every single honor reward in the entire history of League of Legends and I've been playing for over 8 years without ever getting even a warning for bad behavior. if I don't have enough credibility for you to listen to me about what you're doing wrong, then nobody does.

You have a lot of growing to do before you're ready to be an honorable summoner and that's just the end of the discussion, really.

[sg-lux-2] Best of luck to you and your "Gain honor through flaming my team" strategy.

Dukues1 votes

I mean... once again I don't give a shit about honor or being an honorable summoner. I know how to and am most of the time. Just think this whole system is silly and doesn't actually reward people for being honorable. It's cool your so passionate about being a honorable player but I could honestly care less. I have also never been punished and received many honor rewards as well.

Only thing I really got out of this whole conversation is I am done honoring teammates. I will never achieve honor 5 because pretty sure you have to honor people to get more points but meh.... just don't care to "honor" people when I don't really feel it's deserved. It's fine. I still think players are sheep because how many games do people think "omg I really need to honor this person" or is it just more "opp honor screen popped up.... guess I can honor a teammate". LUL!

Feel free to join others and have a circle jerk around being honor 5 or whatever people are. As if a vast majority of the player population cares.

I will start honoring people again when honorable opponent is reintroduced.

MysterQ2 votes

So.....

STAYED COOL? Kind of. GREAT SHOTCALLING? No. xxx? What is this one again.

MysterQ1 votes

Also, your team was doing alright... except it looks like noone was able to shutdown the Aatrox. Like literally both sides are about even besides that ridiculous top lane that happened.

The Sword Saint2 votes

Honor system is about communication and personality, it's not there to give a gold star to someone who carried.

/thread

Dukues1 votes

That's why 9/10 games people just honor who carried the game. You can act naive but it's pretty damn obvious that's how it works. Its also pretty damn Obvious people honor much less often when they lose compared to when they win. They should just remove honor from the title of the system. Why d

And A Real Hiero2 votes

You weren't acting honorable, thus received no honor. Working as intended.

Dukues1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Flacid Leviathan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yu7AndUa,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-29T17:57:30.565+0000)

You weren't acting honorable, thus received no honor. Working as intended.

Are you sure? What is the meaning of honor? I have a feeling people interpret it differently. Just because you believe I didn't act honorable doesn't mean others wouldn't. Yea I got no honor that game but that's one game, and literally joke queue where people play with friends. Friends honor friends regardless of how well they did. Plus as I said before to you or someone else people honor much less often when they lose compared to when they win. But yea... your right.... this system totally acts perfectly. No flaws at all.

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

And A Real Hiero1 votes

The fact you have to ask just shows you are devoid of honor.

I've honored the odd random guy while playing with 3 friends plenty of times.

Behehehehhehehehehe

GrievousFetus1 votes

You sound like a cool dude man. I would have honoured you.

Honestly? I think being flamed or exchanging bants is infinitely more tolerable than this horrible, insincere, passive aggressiveness fake niceness everyone is putting on in a desperate attempt to get honoured. I would rather be told to kill myself by an opponent I tilt off the face of the earth, than be given a blatantly fake "good try you'll get it next time!" By a teammate after I make a mistake.

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