In jungle,he is okay,high damage,but I think it is normal,but rengar top is just too oppressive.Am I the only one who thinks rengar top lane should get nerfed?Idk how but I am sure they can find a way of nerfing his top lane gameplay. Edit : I aggree,his passive HAS to have an actual cooldown,because on top lane it sucks to play against
I think his passive should have a cd per brush so he can't brush camp for free on toplane anymore
Its literally just his heal IMO, you trade with him and he double W's away for 100% heal, this is if you have flat out better stats, if your weaker then he just double Q's to one shot lmao
The only thing I hate is how I can hug the other side of the lane right next to the wall to be as far away from the bushes as possible and he sometimes still manages to jump on me.
The really cancer thing about rengar top is that he can easily get 4 stacks off minions, starting from lvl 1 with Q and brush jumps, and when its fully stacked he massively chunks you with Brush jump AA and double Q, and theres almost no answer to this outside champs who are massively strong level 1 like 
I agree. He is oppressive unless you just flat have better stats. So maybe like darius/renek.
Jeez, there are so many way how to counter him. Rush ninja tabi and pull the enemy minions further from bushes so he cant jump on you or you can be pussy and pick ranged top laner. Rengar is managebale unless your toplaner has a bronze skill. Therefore nothing would help you.
No you are not.
Yeah i do think rengar should have to work harder to get a lead considering how easily he can oneshot when ahead.
I feel like rengar top is trash. but then again I mainly play urgot I just all in him if he ever jumps on me. haven't lost lane to a rengar like ever.
the thing about rengar top is hes literally just gonna sit n bush jump auto q slow run back to bush repeat. its literally the same as a panth lane tbh one he hits 6 and he hasn't or cant kill you in lane he will be all over the map one shotting everyone else who cant build health or armor. the way you deal with him in lane is you have to just hug tower to be honest and make trades ith him as he jumps out for cs to take advantage of not being slowed while behind minions. you wont win the lane realistically by trying to fight him its just another one of those top match ups where you hug and do nothing all game.
Delete top lane bushes
I've been saying this for a long time but always got told to "get good." Rengar has 800 leap range, plus a "feature" where he can take a full step out of the bush before losing the ability to leap, so his actual leap range is 800 + his movespeed, meaning his leap covers the entire lane, and offers essentially 0 reaction time. Combine with hus lack of mana costs, built in sustain, and negligible cooldowns, there's basically nothing to do against him.
TBH I never got why his passive wasn't based on vision, like he's the ultimate predator, that pounce should only refresh if he jumps from a bush they don't have vision on, if you jump from a bush that has vision it should go on a cd to prevent that exact scenario
I'd say to prevent it entirely but then you could tell if they know you're coming instantly by seeing no jump
if they gave his passive a CD it wouldnt be to op, but as is, vs many melee champs he hard wins early
Honestly he just needs to be reverted. As it stands now Rengar top lane has far too much healing and consistent all-ins. Before his rework he needed 2-3 jumps to reach full ferocity since it was 5, now he only needs 4 ferocity AND he gets one stack just by using his passive jump.
Additionally, his W heal is so much more unhealthy now as grey health is just an unhealthy mechanic, especially for top lane. On top of all that it's a cleanse when used as its empowered version. Before the rework his W just granted resistances, with his empowered W being a flat heal (which wasn't that large to begin with). Oh, and he gets free movement when using an empowered ability now, great rework lmao.
I would also like to add that this isn't just a Rengar problem, almost every single top laner in the game is extremely oppressive, with worthy mentions going to 
just to name a few. The new runes just make it far too easy to kill your lane opponent in one rotation, or in Rengar's case, whenever he wants since Grasp/Fleet grant him access to a large amount of sustain to pair with his W(s).
His passive isn't actually the problem, you can punish his passive extremely hard, the problem is that he gets ALL of his ferocity from one jump any time after level 3, as well as the fact that runes are overloaded.
Nyarlathοtep7/22/2019, 7:10:18 AMYes you are. He should be outright gutted.
