How many folks are going to wiff ability's and act like its shroud 2.0 with out having the common god dam sense to aim for the core of the ability as it is centered AROUND her?
Despite not hitting PBE yet from the folks acting like she killed their dog, i am going to go with lots.
Far as balance goes I expect AS is gonna play into lane phase to keep her in line. Looks like a fun kit.
Sire Hippington7 votesThe point of the abillity is not that it makes her a hard target, the point that will make her broken in coordinated play is that it affects others, which means her entier team can cover a good distance without beeing spotted by wards, and whenever her shroud appears, you never know how many opponents you'll deal with, and that her allies can leave the shroud and are still untargetable till they strike or get quite close, so she can make sure her team has first strike in about any fight.
No one with any braincells gives a fuck about her herself haveing stealth or beeing easy to hit with skillshots despite that, it's the team utillity that is bonkers.
Kai Guy2 votesShe may just be bonkers in coordinated play as Kit looks rewarding all hell for smart teammates.
It's the instant tilt average board echochamber bandwagon normal mmr player I'm calling out a this post thou. The kind of folks who whine if an ability does more then one thing.
You can see their knee-jerk reactions and if ya wait I bet some will visit this thread to share their views.
Sire Hippington4 votesdon't know, 90% of the posts i've seen mostly seem concerned that she gets abused in proplay and then nerfed so hard that shess no longer viable in soloQ, like it happend to many others...
Fenikkusu16 votesUnclickable and untargetable are two very different things, the enemy team bunches up on Senna for the stealth? Drop every (If any) AoE ability you have on their ass.
Kai Guy1 votes
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TehNACHO3 votes
Starting to think Senna's E is gonna turn into a noobtrap, especially at lower Elos.
The Stripy Bag2 votes
Starting to think Senna's E is gonna turn into a noobtrap, especially at lower Elos.
You also forgot champions that have Pulls or just straight up skill shots like Ezreal,Lux, and Morgana since it's just directly untargetable not invulnerable. Less of a noob trap and more of a cocky idiot one which is definitely at lower Elos.
TehNACHO1 votesAhh, I was just replying to the whole "Hey let's all group up in this small area around our squishy support!" thing that Fenikkusu pointed out. If we want to add all the champions that can threaten Senna and her allies within her Ult in some significant way, this list is gonna get waaaaay longer.
Hexs Fortune2 votes
Starting to think Senna's E is gonna turn into a noobtrap, especially at lower Elos.
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Sire Hippington1 votescan't wait for 1 man amumu/malph ults against senna while her team sit's in an nearby brush. Sure, in low elo that won't be an issue, but if a good team notices that you throw your big ticket aoe blind into her shroud, they can easily use that to bait your big ults onto the support.
wolvius4 votesE - Curse of the Black Mist Senna dissolves into a cloud of mist, gaining movement speed and camouflaging her and her nearby allies. Teammates who emerge from the mist appear as unclickable wraiths to enemies until they either attack or get close.
Watch the ability preview and count how long lucian has that "ghoul" thing around him after exiting it, I counted 5 seconds which is too much and while they're in that form you cant distinguish who that ghoul is, its going to be a balance nightmare.
Either the "close" range reveal will be bumped up a lot or it will need to be removed, when something is broken its better to get the balance complaints started its not like riot will fix the problems quickly. How long was it before they removed turret untargetability from akali shroud and made it so true sight abilities like leesin Q work like it shoulda from day one.
The Stripy Bag2 votesSenna dissolves into a cloud of mist, gaining movement speed and camouflaging her and her nearby allies. Teammates who emerge from the mist appear as unclickable wraiths to enemies until they either attack or get close.
Watch the ability preview and count how long lucian has that "ghoul" thing around him after exiting it, I counted 5 seconds which is too much and while they're in that form you cant distinguish who that ghoul is, its going to be a balance nightmare.
Either the "close" range reveal will be bumped up a lot or it will need to be removed, when something is broken its better to get the balance complaints started its not like riot will fix the problems quickly. How long was it before they removed turret untargetability from akali shroud and made it so true sight abilities like leesin Q work like it shoulda from day one.
Counter point to this is they can't attack either or it will break the aura and it doesn't make the people it's affecting completely untargetable or invulnerable it just makes it so you have to hit them with either an ability that's AOE or a skill shot which is where someone like Blitzcrank will be a nightmare since he can just run up and break the aura or hook them to him to break it. The purpose of the ability it to make it so if your team needs a way to get close to the enemy team they have a better chance at doing it but they have to coordinate with you. As for the camouflage portion get a Red Ward.
The Stripy Bag3 votesAt least half of NA because that's at minimum how many people on this server don't f#@king read what champions do or refuse to improve.
Kai Guy3 votesHey now. Is it really Na players fault the "garbage balance team" does not balance exclusively to folks who only play 1 champion with the same item and skill order game after game? We are not bad at all its riots fault they dont know how to design their game around 1 individual in millions!
The Stripy Bag3 votes[{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ymyE4hsH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-29T21:38:48.353+0000)
Hey now. Is it really Na players fault the "garbage balance team" does not cater exclusively to folks who only play 1 champion with the same item and skill order game after game? We are not bad at all its riots fault they dont know hot to design their game around 1 individual in millions!
You. I like your style.
xelaker3 votesTo hell with her, I'm concerned with ghosties coming out all looking identical.
Kai Guy2 votesI doubt it will be to confusing. Desirable positioning and what range is effecient won't really change.
Then again some folks still waste abilitys on the fakeco clone.
Illabethe3 votesI think people are going to learn really quick that 
all heavily counter her E. Blitz will literally kill her while she feels secure, or the person in front of her hiding in the mist.
Furthermore, people STILL haven't even seen how her E interacts with close contact. If as the skill describes it, it deactivates in close proximity......
Knight Sky2 votesoverall fun kit for sure. and i agree and disagree with her e. I agree its not like shroud since she is camo not inviz, its more like pyke w for her and her nearby allies. plus she like you said shes in the center and allies whom are effected you can see where they are so its not as broken as people are saying. However what IS borderline broken about it is the fact that you dont know who is who with multiple allies effected and thats gonna make for a very scary engage.
btw..looking forward to my future senna supports whom find a way to miss r shield XD
Kai Guy2 votesIf you dont have vision prior the players in it might be a mystery. Otherwise I cant help but feel some one is beingg an idiot if they instantly forget what champions had been standing next to her. Like difference of an enemy ryze r when you have vision on the cast or dont.
The shuffle will be fun but its not like ya can't make assumptions on what champ is what wraith off behavior and positioning.
Sire Hippington3 votesallies whom are effected you can see where they are
no, you can't. As long as they are within the shroud, they are stealthed. only if they leave it you can see them, though you still don't know whom exactly, and you still can't target them till they take action or get into detection range.
Illabethe3 votesSenna is always in the middle, so you know an exiting ghoul isn't her.
Sewer Side1 votesSenna is going to be garbage on release.