Why new Banshees is a bad replacement for Abyssal

TheGrot··3 votes·1,223 views

You guys are the ones who kept nerfing abyssal scepter over time, so naturally, you must know that the only reason you purchase it is because you really need an MR item and it's the only ap item that gives MR. You don't buy it for the damage. So, why are you trying to replace the mid lane magic resist item with an item that not only gives less less MR, but gives even less damage? And don't try to make an argument for the banshees veil passive compensating. That item stopped being built a long time ago when you guys doubled the refresh time on the passive. The only reason people still buy it is because it gives the most MR out of any item in the game.

I don't know if you guys realized, but mid laners don't take a full set of magic resist glyphs almost ever. 10% cdr + either mr or ap is what's most common. So when you reduce the magic resist of the mid laner magic resist item, you in-turn are going to inspire people to build liandris every single game, because there's basically no point in building void staff. Locket doesn't give aura MR anymore. Mid laners don't really take MR glyphs. ADC's don't incorporate MR into their builds that often, and when they do, it's normally a 4th or 5th item Scimitar or GA. (EDIT: I just realized that GA is no longer going to give magic resist. So even more reason to not ever build void staff, I guess)

Can you guys (Riot) explain to me what the point of building a void staff will be if you go about making changes like these?

6 Comments

Grimspeake1 votes

Bruh that item is going to be overloaded for mages, everyone is gonna rush it and junglers will be useless ganking mid once they have it because they wont even need to ward anymore.

The jungle meta is going to go back in favour of tanks or afk farmers.

Dethflash1 votes

Champions like Annie, who have a single high burst ability they rely on are going to be in quite the pickle with the banshees change. No more flash R without using an ability first to get rid of the shield, but its only about a 40 second window you have then to flash r. Not saying its impossible but certain champions are going to have a much harder time when opposing mid laners can get a spell shield

zaire901 votes

Can anyone tell me why riot thought it was a good idea to just get rid of the mr on ga

Big Lincoln1 votes

A counterpoint; Abyssal's passive is far more useful on tanks who are encouraged to get in close, where the aura actually takes effect. This is actually something of a buff to mages in that sense, since champions who never built it because they don't get in that range, like Xerath, Lux, etc can now benefit from the enhanced damage if they have a tank or bruiser who builds it for them.

I think the Banshee's changes are very strange, though. Particularly because they added it.. then they removed the scaling cooldown on the shield.. then they nerfed its stats. It's a little too nerfed, and a 40 second spell shield does not compensate it.

Dominick Destine1 votes

New Banshee's Veil is perfect for Evelynn

I can't wait for the change to go in.

Fed by Snu Snu1 votes

New Banshee's is very likely to throw Syndra off the meta since she will be unable to make initiations on her match up, while they still get to scale.

Engaging with Lissandra will also be much safer, albeit less bursty, but you are supposed to roam and gank, not 1v1 people, so it should be better for her as well.

Other than that, will wait and see. I suspect it might become the equivalent of the Zhonya's Rush for AD match ups, which might not be healthy for the game overall.

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