Zeke's Harbinger and 100% crit builds; change that to 50% crit DAMAGE

Photos of Ghosts··2 votes·780 views

It's not all that uncommon to see 100% crit chance hypercarries these days, and Zeke's is apparently only worth taking when your ADC is a duelist that builds Maw - Deah's Dance - Phantom Dancer, aka the opposite of the intended user. Now having the intended users swap from one category t oanother can have 3 effects:

  • be overpowered on the new users (tank itemisation these days)
  • be totally fine and just as interesting
  • be completely unusable on the intended users, BUT too situational/unrealistic on the new ones. We're in the 3rd case here: Graves and Quinn won't be with their support enough to proc Zeke's, as simple as that. They'll get picks together, they'll teamfight together, but they'll spend most of their time roaming at 2000 units from their support at least.

The item is pretty much useless IMO.

So why not change it to 50% crit damage instead of crit chance? Pros:

  • Works best on hypercarries with 100% crit
  • Is multiplicative/snowbally like the AP counterpart of the active. Currently, you can make someone go from 0 to 50% crit chance, but if someone has 0 AP they remain at 0 AP.

Thoughts? Number (50% crit damage) is obviously subject to change, it could also be a weaker version that procs faster for example.

6 Comments

Randomonium2 votes

It makes sense but I shudder when I think about an ADC hitting me on every auto attack for 300% AD if he has 100% crit, IE and Zeke's.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

We'd have to make a better VFX then, but it's a very short period of time after a long buildup. Play around that window.

Elite4Runner1 votes

I do see what you mean and actually like your suggestion, but the whole point of getting this item is for ADC and Support combos that stay togetger. If you're going to roam or insist on getting more than 50% critical chance for yourself. 1 understand that you are losing some effectiveness, and 2 probably tell your support not to get that item.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Or bind it to the AP carry

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Precisely. Currently it's only good on duelists AND if you force them to stop acting like duelists. I'm trying to make it good again on hypercarries.

xxxDogmanxxx1 votes

item 3050 is also good if you bind it to an AD Assassin. Hello Crit-Rengar Khazix Talon Zed

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